David D says to call 3 or 4 times

[Inc. ©]

What do you guys think about this?

But the best thing you can do is to just call a woman on the phone 3 or 4 times before you give up! (That is, when a woman gives you her REAL number).

Women expect men to keep trying, so they just don't call back.

Remember, SHE'S THE WOMAN. She's the one who's getting approached by interested guys, and who probably sees you as "just another guy" calling her.

http://www.alovelinksplus.com/advice/double-your-dating-articles/if-she-doesnt-call-back.htm

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I'd focus on what David says to do in the rest of the article:

Figure out how to make it so that women WANT to give you their REAL number and WANT to call you back based on the first meeting. And if you would like to talk to a woman who didn't call you back (maybe you left her a message, etc.), then come up with something funny. ****y & Funny, that is.

 

[Jariel]

3-4 times is as good as 1 or 10 times. The more times you call the more desperate you'll look. Once or twice followed by a text message is my limit.

 

[Alphathree]

THIS IS FOR COLD APPROACHES ONLY... one you don't know and have only seen once on the street or at a club or something.

He's not saying that calling 3 or 4 times won't make you look like a wuss, he's saying he'd give up after 4 times.

Who cares if a woman you don't know thinks you're a wuss is his point. If she was going to flake out, she's going to flake out.

You can filter such women a lot earlier.

 

[a difficult guy]

Originally posted by Jariel
3-4 times is as good as 1 or 10 times. The more times you call the more desperate you'll look. Once or twice followed by a text message is my limit.

agreed.

 

[frivolousz21]

THIS IS FOR COLD APPROACHES ONLY... one you don't know and have only seen once on the street or at a club or something.

He's not saying that calling 3 or 4 times won't make you look like a wuss, he's saying he'd give up after 4 times.

Who cares if a woman you don't know thinks you're a wuss is his point. If she was going to flake out, she's going to flake out.

F-N RIGHT

 

[englishcrap]

Call once a day..after 2 days call on a "blocked" number so she cant see whose calling..

If on the first day u hit her voice mail leave a very brief message
"Hey this is Mike we met blah blah blah callme back on xxx"

If doesnt reply back in 2 days call back if u hit her voice mail again

say "Hey its Mike what the **** is going on here..give me ****ing call back man on xxx"

Dont sound pissed off say it in a very confident tone..

When she responds she will be pissed off and began screaming down the phone..let her finish her ranting and raving then say "Hey guess what happened last night..then transition into a story " ...

After the story tease her pump her with emotions and then setup a date..dead simple

 

[Alphathree]

Originally posted by englishcrap
Call once a day..after 2 days call on a "blocked" number so she cant see whose calling..

If on the first day u hit her voice mail leave a very brief message
"Hey this is Mike we met blah blah blah callme back on xxx"

If doesnt reply back in 2 days call back if u hit her voice mail again

say "Hey its Mike what the **** is going on here..give me ****ing call back man on xxx"

Dont sound pissed off say it in a very confident tone..

When she responds she will be pissed off and began screaming down the phone..let her finish her ranting and raving then say "Hey guess what happened last night..then transition into a story " ...

After the story tease her pump her with emotions and then setup a date..dead simple

I have no idea how you pull this off but it sounds pretty specific to you... I wouldn't actually recommend doing this

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Depends on the situation. If she says that she'll call you back and then never does then you'll know she's a liar and aint interested.

I personally have a 2 call limit. If I can't set anything up after 2 calls I move on.

 

[Sargeholic]

Remember, you can't NEXT a girl you aren't with. Therefore, you can call 100 times and you will still have a better chance than giving up.

Still, its best to move on after 3-4 calls. This is for your own dignity and precious time.

EDIT: I seldom leave messages until last resort (this is my custom with guys, LTRs, my parents, etc. as well), so I call more often. Any more than 2 unreturned messages and I always move on.

 

[flexion_]

I have a one call limit.

Its really not worth my time if they are too afraid to call me back and if they don't like me they won't call me back so either way I get my answer.

 

[SeldomSeen]

RE:

2 calls thats it. 2nd call I leave a message and my number to call back. If I dont hear anything there is no 3rd or 4th call.

 

[griffon65]

^^ agreed.

If a girl is interested in you she'll call back.

 

[everywomanshero]

*67

I've been playing with the star 67 ... and my success rate of initially getting girls to answer is increasing,. They cannot stand the mystery. Occasionally, a phone has all private calls blocked. These people are just too paranoid to have any meaningful social interaction with anyone, lost cause.

Once I've gotten a woman on the phone once or twice, the rate of flaking is tolerably low and I stop using star 67

 

[SuperEMan]

What if this then...

interesting topic. See what you guys think of this. I called this girl I know was way into me from her emails Wed night and left a vm. She texts me back 2+ hours later that same night apologizing for the lateness and if I was free tomorrow 12-2. I call her again (1st call after her response) the next day about this but get vm again and left msg. Don't hear back, so I call again Friday 11ish, speak with her and made plans for Sunday, all this time she was very specific about details (ie telling me on the phone before giving me a time that she had a project Sunday afternoon) and giving me info that's unnecessary. So, today (Sunday) I call 1 hr before meeting time but get vm again... now I wish I had proceeded when I first spoke to her on the street rather than closing... I'm gonna talk to other girls in the meantime but I'm thinking of going one step back to email and setting a meeting with that... ideas appreciated

 

[madgame]

When I found out about all this you need to be a man and not a wussy like those guys in the movies, I really kinda started feeling, that I shouldnt make too much of an effort if a chick isnt interested right away and just next her...

but then again now I have to say that's bull****. Of course you gotta be a man and keep your pride and not act like a desperate wussy and keep calling her even if it's obvious that she doesnt wanna get with u (in other words you gotta be able to walk away with your chest sticking out knowing she aint the only one).
It's all about finding the right mixture. I've often heard that females like to be "conquered" or something and I guess that's true because I know guys who have hooked up with girls who turned them down in the beginning...

But then again I have to say being able to not give a flying **** and just walk away from the situation has helped me a great deal, because sometimes it's just pointless

 

[everywomanshero]

No Pride

gentleman, in this game pride has no place. It is all about results. It is he who gets the bootie who laughs last my friends. Go out with no pride and experience no shame. Do whatever you feel will get results. Experiment.

For me, using *67 is a boon in the beginning. Also, not waiting 3-4 days before calling. If you want results, totally ignore any phone advice from the bible. Most of the bible is OK, but some of the phone advice and especially anything from AD is terrible.

 

[BrotherAP]

Re: No Pride

Originally posted by everywomanshero
gentleman, in this game pride has no place. It is all about results. It is he who gets the bootie who laughs last my friends. Go out with no pride and experience no shame. Do whatever you feel will get results. Experiment.

For me, using *67 is a boon in the beginning. Also, not waiting 3-4 days before calling. If you want results, totally ignore any phone advice from the bible. Most of the bible is OK, but some of the phone advice and especially anything from AD is terrible.

Taking phone advice from this website killed my game. I was actually much less successful with women shortly after finding this forum because of it.

 

[everywomanshero]

Same here

I just kept trying it assuming other variables were at play. My results got better again shortly after switching back. Most guys I've talked to in person seem to agree that the phone advice is really terrible.

Steering clear of AD and Doc Love's advice should help greatly.

 

[Marlimus]

lets get back to reality

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!

Here's what worked for me in REAL LIFE. I make a pickup. I call her 3 days later. I chat with her, no C&F, (i didn't know about that back then) she really digs the convo, turns out we have common interests. When I dutifully end the conversation after 10 minutes, she says "Call me again!"

3 days later, I call again. No pickup. Left a message. call the day after next, no pickup. Left no message. Called again day after next, no pickup, left no message. I called one last time and left this message:

"Hey Heather, this is M. This is about the 3rd time I've tried to reach you unsuccessfully. If you would like to hear from me again, my extension is xxxx."

3 weeks pass, and she doesn't call. I'm in one of the college cafeterias, when she walks in with some guy. She leaves him walks up to me and starts touching me and saying how she was planning to call me back, and to call her again. I set two dates for that weekend on the spot and she immediately accepts. No hesitation, no nothing. She didn't flake.

Conclusion: Excessive pride and machismo will get you nowhere. There is nothing wrong with calling 3-4 times.