Dave D. Double your Dating = nonsense

[Maximus_Decimus]

Originally posted by BigFoot
I realized that JERKS do, in fact, attract hot women. Selfish behavior, as unhealthy as this might sound, often makes women feel attracted to you. Sarcasm, ball busting, playing hard to get, and all kinds of other "illogical" things really do work when it comes to attracting women.

I noticed this comment by Dave D. on what I assume is his website and was amazed at the nonsense he generates to sell his book. Sure, what he says above would likely work if someone already likes you alot (and it's probably abusive under those circumstances), but that's about it.

Stop looking at the "letter of the law" and look deeper into the "spirit of the law". He is simply saying jerks are respected by their woman, they are challenging, and they do not let women control them easily. In other words, they are showing traits of a man. Guess what? Women are attracted to real men:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=16903

Maximus_Decimus

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I hate how David D seems to merit some kind of sage-like status for pointing out the Jerk Dynamic that many guys as old as my great-grandfather have been using with success for centuries.

Yes, the Jerk Dynamic (for lack of a better term) does work and predictably enough to be used on many kinds of women. I can't even begin to relate how (in my single days) the women that had the most going for them with looks, intelligence and self-respect were almost always the first to succumb to the Jerk Dynamic. This isn't to say become an abusive Jerk, but rather to tap into the qualities that make a Jerk an attraction to women. They stand out because they don't care; like every other guy that sallies up and buys them a drink to listen about how they hate their 'Jerk Boyfriends'.

Not a flame, but I also understand the kind of guy that gets upset because he sees this dynamic in action regularly enough to predict women's behavior. It's real easy to say a woman is of some lesser quality if she is attracted to the Jerk when we've never personally experienced her in this capacity.

 

[sstype]

Re: Re: Dave D. Double your Dating = nonsense

Originally posted by Hellboy
No, it does work, but you'll find it only works with low quality women. She's gonna have some kind of mental issues with her looks, personality, drugs, self esteem, AW, dramaholic, you name it.

If you want to attract a lady you have to be a gentleman.

so in other words, the majority American female population

 

[BigFoot]

Hellboy is exactly right !
But generally I do agree Dave D. stumbles upon a few truths here and there.

 

[BigFoot]

Another amusing quote from Dave D. :

If you meet an attractive women, and IMMEDIATELY start giving her a hard time about something, busting on her, and have fun, it basically says:
"You are interesting enough to talk to, but you're going to have to do a lot more than just look good to impress me. Your beauty doesn't make me nervous in the slightest, I'm perfectly calm, and in fact, I'm so comfortable that I just noticed something about you that I'm going to make fun of..."

Yes, you'd look like an insecure loser type that had just read Dave D's book because you have no real point of reference.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by BigFoot
Another amusing quote from Dave D. :


Yes, you'd look like an insecure loser type that had just read Dave D's book because you have no real point of reference.

Are you speaking from experience or just making an assumption?

 

[Maverick_DJ]

No, it does work, but you'll find it only works with low quality women. She's gonna have some kind of mental issues with her looks, personality, drugs, self esteem, AW, dramaholic, you name it.

If you want to attract a lady you have to be a gentleman.

Thats funny!

Well if you try his stuff on low quality women then yeah, your gonna get low quality women. Also if she has REAL issues with her looks, personality etc. then you busting on her about wont work so, his stuff probably wont work on peole like that.

However, I have had great success using c+f on quality women though.

 

[Chrispy]

Like most things in life, take what you think is right and ignore the stuff that doesn't sit well with you.

I'm going through the videos and the thing is, you can't take all the points literally. David D is trying to make a point and sometimes his examples and explanation don't come across very well.

His references to philosophy and science books are pretty good. I've followed up by reading some of them too!

 

[simon]

Wasn't David D a member of these forums? Or was that just in some sort of hallucination I had?

His stuff is decent, but his newsletter just goes over the same stuff over and over again. He doesn't put his points across too well. I took the C&F thing to heart and started being a real ****nut towards women.

 

[Hellboy]

Originally posted by Maverick_DJ
Thats funny!

Well if you try his stuff on low quality women then yeah, your gonna get low quality women. Also if she has REAL issues with her looks, personality etc. then you busting on her about wont work so, his stuff probably wont work on peole like that.

However, I have had great success using c+f on quality women though.

I'm not just talking about C+F. You can be a gentleman and still be C+F. C+F is good, in moderation. But I'm talking about more selfish traits:

I realized that JERKS do, in fact, attract hot women. Selfish behavior, as unhealthy as this might sound, often makes women feel attracted to you. Sarcasm, ball busting, playing hard to get, and all kinds of other "illogical" things really do work when it comes to attracting women.

My definition of a quality woman is a (hot) girl who is mature enough to know a good thing, and not feel the need to play mind games. Someone with enough self esteem to expect to be treated like a lady. Someone intelligent enough to know that selfish behavior is not a desireable trait.

Like attracts like. The above tactics, while they may be successful in getting laid, are not the type of things you want to be doing if you are looking for something more long term. If you play a pure game, you'll attract pure women.

 

[tmpgstx]

Well said Hellboy .. by being a jerk, you're going to get women who constantly need approval. By being a jerk, you're getting them to seek your approval. Being an azzhole gets these types of girls.

A 'healthy' woman with minor issues and hangups etc. will not find this that appealing. She'll know it's all a show in most cases and write it off as immaturity. Joking with her is good but in a more witty way.

 

[BigFoot]

Good discussion. I had posted before about a manager I work with who was being approached by a bunch of women after his divorce became known. It was hard for me to believe (he was not even trying for all but one). He's not a jerk at all, in fact, he enjoys being a gentleman of sorts (opening doors, making everyone feel comfortable, smiles alot). See my previous post on the details if you want but it became very clear to me alot of this jerk/bad boy stuff is way off. He is more like the type of guy women say they want.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by BigFoot
Good discussion. I had posted before about a manager I work with who was being approached by a bunch of women after his divorce became known. It was hard for me to believe (he was not even trying for all but one). He's not a jerk at all, in fact, he enjoys being a gentleman of sorts (opening doors, making everyone feel comfortable, smiles alot). See my previous post on the details if you want but it became very clear to me alot of this jerk/bad boy stuff is way off. He is more like the type of guy women say they want.

But back to the topic, have you actually used any of David's theories or are you making assumptions about them?