“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Dating out of your league career wise.

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Ok, so how do you DS deal with it when a chick you asked out has a career that's a lot better paying than you? The HB 7 in that thread I talked about agreed to a date and gave me her number. As most of you know I own kiosk at a fleamarket and this caused me problems with that snobby HB9.5 a couple months ago when I told her on a date where my business was.

Should I just put some spin on it somehow when I tell her? Like it's a big operation with multiple locations? At least to bandaid it for the few dates. I figure after a few dates the chick likes you enough as a person and you can give more info about your business once you got her.

This chick is a pediatrician, 2 years older than me.

Do you let women walk all over you if they talk bad about your career like that one mega HB did to me?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Get yourself a good stable well-paying career, then you won't have to worry about it. I just looked up this gal I used to fancy back in high school but she only went with the creme de la creme of jock/musician/popular talented boy in our class. Of course, he grew tired of her stuck-up-ed-ness elitist sh!t - she wanted high class, you know Large dinner table, proper manners, socialite to the nth degree living. She got that by marrying into a family that had power (donors to a #1 or #2 private prep school where we grew up). The guy was heir to his father's prestige and work/riches, he was a "Jr." He looked like Antonio Banderas to boot. Fast-forward 14 years into their marriage with children and as I look her up for the first time in years, what do I see? Divorce records 5 years ago. I always thought to myself even at 13, 14, 15,16 years old that SHE would be hard to please, that "I pity the fool who ends up committed to her...supposedly for LIFE!" Though semi-friends, she would treat me as lower class (they just KNOW that your parents don't have money, that you are not "cultured" or have manners or belong even in their school! or in their circles, even though I was good looking). So she's livin in an apartment now still after having lived in a mansion for over a decade. He husband probably could no longer put up with her sh!t either her silly clammering for MORE. He most likely cheated on her.
 

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Get yourself a good stable well-paying career, then you won't have to worry about it. I just looked up this gal I used to fancy back in high school but she only went with the creme de la creme of jock/musician/popular talented boy in our class. Of course, he grew tired of her stuck-up-ed-ness elitist sh!t - she wanted high class, you know Large dinner table, proper manners, socialite to the nth degree living. She got that by marrying into a family that had power (donors to a #1 or #2 private prep school where we grew up). The guy was heir to his father's prestige and work/riches, he was a "Jr." He looked like Antonio Banderas to boot. Fast-forward 14 years into their marriage with children and as I look her up for the first time in years, what do I see? Divorce records 5 years ago. I always thought to myself even at 13, 14, 15,16 years old that SHE would be hard to please, that "I pity the fool who ends up committed to her...supposedly for LIFE!" Though semi-friends, she would treat me as lower class (they just KNOW that your parents don't have money, that you are not "cultured" or have manners or belong even in their school! or in their circles, even though I was good looking). So she's livin in an apartment now still after having lived in a mansion for over a decade. He husband probably could no longer put up with her sh!t either her silly clammering for MORE. He most likely cheated on her.
That hb9.5 I went out with is exactly as you described when I told her about my business and it's no wonder I still see her every single day on old. Her husband she was married to for just one year. She said he was tired of marriage. More like he was tired of her and kicked her ti the curb despite the hotness.

Shes so snobby that guys in real life are turned off by it despite being a high end hb.

When you see someone over hb7 on old everyday for months you know their so screwy in the head that they can't meet or hold onto guys in real life despite the hot looks. I do see the same high end hbs in this region on old everyday.

I learned my lesson about high end hbs from old from my last 3 dates. There is a reason they use old.
 

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Despite what is claimed on this forum, life experience has taught me that it's not your career, but more how you carry yourself.
Admittedly, when I've worked the menial job or two, I've embellished a bit. Once you've secured their interest, you can be more forthcoming.

Although your demographic may pull in more older folks, fleamarkets tend to attract nearly all walks of life.
Try adding a few loss-leader female products to your table. You won't make a profit, but it'll entice women to stop and that's when you can work on approaching.
 
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how do you DS deal with it when a chick you asked out has a career that's a lot better paying than you?
Easy... You don't give a fvck about it. If you make it obvious that it bothers you, it's also going to bother her. The same thing goes for dating a woman who's younger or older. If you don't give a fvck, neither will she.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Easy... You don't give a fvck about it. If you make it obvious that it bothers you, it's also going to bother her. The same thing goes for dating a woman who's younger or older. If you don't give a fvck, neither will she.
Thats the attitude I have with women now. F th
Despite what is claimed on this forum, life experience has taught me that it's not your career, but more how you carry yourself.
Admittedly, when I've worked the menial job or two, I've embellished a bit. Once you've secured their interest, you can be more forthcoming.

Although your demographic may pull in more older folks, fleamarkets tend to attract nearly all walks of life.
Try adding a few loss-leader female products to your table. You won't make a profit, but it'll entice women to stop and that's when you can work on approaching.
Yea mostly old people. Sometimes we get some super hot chicks but they always seem to have husbands or boyfriends with them. Also they dont look at cell stuff much because they buy it off amazon or the brand name stuff at big box stores. Yea that's something to think about. What things would attract hot chicks especially ones likes 20 lol. I would prefer a young girl lol.

Also true I shouldn't give a f what women think. If they dont like my job f them. That HB9 date laughed and insulted my business. When a woman walks over you like that should a man stick up for themselves? Or just beta cuck?
 

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Who cares? Don't even bring it up.
You're only disqualifying yourself if you do.

Think of a hobby that you really like and tell her it's your job.
She's not going to check your references, so it doesn't matter.
What matters the most is what you're passionate about.
It's harder to lie when you're passionate about something.
 

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Meet women with the same interests as you. Chances are you are a better golfer, better horseback rider, better photographer, faster runner, better mountain biker, whatever. Let that be your superior factor.

I moistened some panties simply by putting on a group camping trip and having a nice camping setup and knowing my way around the woods. I had girls making me sandwiches and cozying up to me at sunset.

Guess what?
Your Pediatrician has a ****load of school debt. Perhaps your knowledge of personal and business finance might be attractive to her. Provided you don't come off as an arrogant know-it-all. More of an "I understand what it is like to be under a debt load" kind of approach.
But I'm guessing you have a bit of an awkward vibe to begin with. What is there for her to admire? What are you truly confident about? What is something you can do second nature and have a conversation while doing it? That is how you show value.
 

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If you're just looking for sex then lie your ass off. If you're looking for a gf then a little embellishment is OK but not so much that she feels deceived when she finds out the truth. Honestly its a good test for you to see how she reacts. If she equates a job or what she earns with being superior to you then you don't want to be around her anyway.
 

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Ok, so how do you DS deal with it when a chick you asked out has a career that's a lot better paying than you? The HB 7 in that thread I talked about agreed to a date and gave me her number. As most of you know I own kiosk at a fleamarket and this caused me problems with that snobby HB9.5 a couple months ago when I told her on a date where my business was.

Should I just put some spin on it somehow when I tell her? Like it's a big operation with multiple locations? At least to bandaid it for the few dates. I figure after a few dates the chick likes you enough as a person and you can give more info about your business once you got her.

This chick is a pediatrician, 2 years older than me.

Do you let women walk all over you if they talk bad about your career like that one mega HB did to me?
Flake on her. Dont let no one trash you out.
 

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Yea mostly old people. Sometimes we get some super hot chicks but they always seem to have husbands or boyfriends with them. Also they dont look at cell stuff much because they buy it off amazon or the brand name stuff at big box stores. Yea that's something to think about. What things would attract hot chicks especially ones likes 20 lol. I would prefer a young girl lol.
While you may want an early 20's girl that is considered a "10" there needs to be some realism here. This isn't meant to sound insulting, it's meant offer objectivity.

Your age is listed as 35. What can you offer a gal that is 10-15 years younger than you .. that she can't get easily get from someone within her own peer group? If you are above average looking (I openly admit that I"m not) then perhaps. If you arrive with mega experience in gaming the women then there's better odds (but still , you are competing with guy's in her peer group). Status, also doesn't hurt.

If your standards are too high and you aren't applying some self-objectivity, then it's doubtful that you'll get the specific aged women and the "high ranking" beauties. It can still happen without much effort, but be prepared. These particular women arrive with more issues than than the investment time is usually worth.
 

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Why do you think women try to walk all over men now? Is it because of Betas allowing this type of behavior?
Its because a guy like you second guesses your self respect. Guys where still being idiots pursuing babes who desired dominance over them. Trust the process. Females know who they desire.
 

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While you may want an early 20's girl that is considered a "10" there needs to be some realism here. This isn't meant to sound insulting, it's meant offer objectivity.

Your age is listed as 35. What can you offer a gal that is 10-15 years younger than you .. that she can't get easily get from someone within her own peer group? If you are above average looking (I openly admit that I"m not) then perhaps. If you arrive with mega experience in gaming the women then there's better odds (but still , you are competing with guy's in her peer group). Status, also doesn't hurt.

If your standards are too high and you aren't applying some self-objectivity, then it's doubtful that you'll get the specific aged women and the "high ranking" beauties. It can still happen without much effort, but be prepared. These particular women arrive with more issues than than the investment time is usually worth.
I don't expect 10s. Like I said 7-9 are fine. It seems the 9 and above they either have baggage or are so full of themselves and high maintence it's not worth it. 8.5 HB is just fine. HB10 maybe to F is fine but long term unless you got $$$ to please them and their lifestyle it's not worth it. That HB9.5 I went on a date with I know was looking for money. When I mentioned where my business was located her mood totally did a 360 compared to before that slip up. Go earn your own damn money. I don't mind paying for meals and stuff but trying to hook up just for money won't fly with me. It seems these late 30s women want that. They want to stay at home and not work. It's fine if you have a family to raise and a guy can support that but just lookinig for a sugar daddy is BS.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The thing you have to worry about with a woman like this is does she respect you and is she submissive to you.

If she thinks she is smarter than you or has more life experience then she will resist ceding control to you because she will think she knows better than you do.

That can create a power struggle you’d rather not have.

Obviously you aren’t going to tell her how to be a physician but aside from that you need to be the man and the leader in the relationship.

I have one friend who dates a veterinarian. She out earns him to a degree but she is very sweet & submissive around him. He’s a physical therapist with his own business.

My recent ex has a neurologist that he is seeing. He has already complained that she expects to control decisions in the relationship and the power struggle I mentioned above is already emerging. I doubt that will last because she is unlikely to be submissive. She thinks she’s smarter & knows better than him. His ego isn’t going to tolerate that for long.

So look at whether or not she looks for you to lead her. How’s that end of things?
 

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She isnt that good looking the more I saw so shes crossed out. Talking to a hot chick from Facebook dating app in texting and we will go out likely.
 
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