Dating in 2025 in the western world - What most women really want!

[SW15]

Sex is king. Sexual confidence has always been the biggest tool for men in dating. Anyone who thinks different is in denial or lacks the sexual confidence and is coping.

Being good at sex is going to help retain women.

Some combination of looks, money, status, and personality will help with the initial attraction. Looks is the strongest factor in initial attraction. Looks and the other factors will enable getting to sex. Quality of sex and giving her "the feels" will keep her around if the man wants to retain her.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Being good at sex is going to help retain women.

Some combination of looks, money, status, and personality will help with the initial attraction. Looks is the strongest factor in initial attraction. Looks and the other factors will enable getting to sex. Quality of sex and giving her "the feels" will keep her around if the man wants to retain her.

Sex does die down and I still make it my obligation not to be lazy in bed when the time comes lol.

 

[SW15]

Sex does die down

Most people can't keep up the pace of sex set during the initial weeks and months. This is part of relationship decay in longer term relationships. Even with relationship decay, there are some couples that can keep a good frequency of sex rate.

I still make it my obligation not to be lazy in bed when the time comes

That's good.

 

[Hal9000]

When I was doing a lot of dating it was definitely my experience that once you sexxed up a woman properly there was a sudden and discernible power shift within the relationship. From what they've always told me, probably 90% of men suck in bed so once you establish you're part of the other 10% you become much more of a valuable commodity in their eyes. Doesn't mean they want to immediately jump into a LTR or anything but, at a minimum, it means they're gonna keep you on speed dial and respond to any messages you send them.

 

[CornbreadFed]

When I was doing a lot of dating it was definitely my experience that once you sexxed up a woman properly there was a sudden and discernible power shift within the relationship. From what they've always told me, probably 90% of men suck in bed so once you establish you're part of the other 10% you become much more of a valuable commodity in their eyes. Doesn't mean they want to immediately jump into a LTR or anything but, at a minimum, it means they're gonna keep you on speed dial and respond to any messages you send them.

Being good in bed is really subjective and depends on the emotions of the woman. You could be good in bed and then give her the ick the next time. 9 times out of 10, the best guy a girl has ever had was a guy she fvcked once or had a brief FWB fling with.

 

[Free_Agent]

If the bed is a soaking wet mess, you will know

 

[Jor-El]

One told me I was crap in bed. Although,how she knew that after only 30 seconds il never know

 

[Bokanovsky]

The OP is out to lunch. I suspect he's still a virgin.

 

[Gamisch]

I agree with @CornbreadFed .

Female sex is a highly complicated subject matter, one that's been talked about for centuries or p3rhaps for as long as mankind exists.

The OP only applies AFTER you checked all the other boxes. If you check all her boxes but you "lack in tbe sack " ofcourse she will dump you. On the other hand: the fact she likes you gives you a headstart.

Tbh on this forum this is a kinda nonsensical thing to discuss. Most here will know how to put it down on a woman. The real struggle are the dynamics before and after the deed.

 

[ValiantMale]

I agree with @CornbreadFed .

Female sex is a highly complicated subject matter, one that's been talked about for centuries or p3rhaps for as long as mankind exists.

The OP only applies AFTER you checked all the other boxes. If you check all her boxes but you "lack in tbe sack " ofcourse she will dump you. On the other hand: the fact she likes you gives you a headstart.

Tbh on this forum this is a kinda nonsensical thing to discuss. Most here will know how to put it down on a woman. The real struggle are the dynamics before and after the deed.

THis is for the capable. I wouldnt waste time talkin about women to non capable men. Most men try to work so hard to please and get to know a woman other ways.. Reality of men don't understand sex is what women are craving.. good sex. everthing else can come after.. The men who do figure out this shti and become good at it, guess what? they start coaching or talking about it almost immediately after it clicks... they mkae youtube channels, instagram channels, etc

most guys simply dont get it.. because most guys are not speaking to the sexual nature of women, they are speaking to the nature of women that is more of a logical, workplace, what can u do for me besides sex mindset.

 

[dkstar11q]

Hopefully not off-topic but would like to ask at that point why not move to a more favorable part of the world like Asian countries or Russia since in the Western world the women holds almost all the cards?

 

[BaronOfHair]

"...sexual performance will keep her..."

Life in what we today refer to as Western Civilization was no doubt much simpler prior to The 1700s, when this noxious concept of individual rights sprung up...

Used to be that achieving the goal you mention was simply a matter of acquiring a home with a fairly spacious basement, then taking a straight razor to the tendons of one's current squeeze, once you got her into said basement

By contrast, mating and dating today has become more confounding than getting decent service at a restaurant, or any other retailer, really: We now have to regularly question whether or not our own antics are likely to secure the affections of those we're trying to get something out of, rather than inducing their revulsion

 

[BaronOfHair]

Another thing I've noticed is 20 years ago people dated to be in relationships and marriage

It's been 80 years ago or more since a substantial number of folks took that approach. 20 years ago was The 2000s, when pundits and commentators were already lamenting Sex And The City's effects on the mores of everyday Americans, women especially