"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dating Good Girls, really good girls

AF77

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So i'm dating an extremely moral christian chick. I'm about the same morally, but we've both had sex with 2 people (okay, i've had sex with 5, and probably so has she, but she says 2).
To put it in perspective she dropped her last guy (dating) because he put his hand up her shirt after 4 weeks. While they were making out.
I'm pretty sure I know how to handle this (Nice guy, with a few negs and a good deal of teasing and being funny). But I would like your opinion.
I'm particularly interested in how the rules change when it comes to genuinely moral girls.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Skydiver43127

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I'm not really an expert on morality, let alone religion, but I always seem to end up with "hard to get" chicks (not moral christians but with a lot of personal inhibitions regarding sex), so here's my 2 cents.

1. Describe yourself as a sexually active guy and don't bond with her on the moral stuff. This way when you actually make a move she's prepared for it.
2. Don't be afraid to make a move but be ready to back down quick if you're rejected. Most escalations will need multiple attempts to succeed, but each attempt will make the next one easier.

Then again, with all this ingenious advice I still end up having sex too late in the relationship (I go along with the ASD instead of breaking it), so if anyone has ideas on doing it faster I'll be glad to hear it.
 

BeautifulHawaii

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If you both had sex already with people outside of marriage you're not real Christians even if you continue to think you are.

Moving on from that though and getting to what you are really here for she stopped and dropped that other guy because she just wasn't all that into him.

Perhaps your game is greater and she desires you more so simply work your magic escalate until her body is practically begging for you and then make your move.

Simple. :up:

"and probably so has she, but she says 2"

Multiply any number a woman gives you by three and you'll be getting somewhere near the real figure of men that she's slept with.
 

Gangster Of Love

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You don't really do it much different than with any other woman. She has had sex, with at least 2-5 times different guys. Attraction works the same, I bet not all 5 of those guys had to wait 3 months to feel her up.

The key is not caring wether she actually puts out or not, or if you do, don't make it so obvious. You need to come from a frame that you already are getting A$s, and you'll keep getting it, if not from her, from someone else, and off course, SHE NEEDS TO BE INTO YOU. If you are having to constantly work too hard to hit it, she doesn't like you enough.

If you are constantly ending up with too many "hard to get" women, it is not the women, it's you. There is no way you are meeting and dating that many virgins or the like. If you are, you need to let me know where you live, as many here would like to explore your region.

For every "hard to get" woman you encounter, unless she's a virgin, you can bet there was someone in her past who was able to get her naked in a lot less time than she would care to admit.
 

Scars

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Even a seemingly "moral" woman is still programmed on the same level as all the others. What I mean by this is that the rule that all woman think with their FEELINGS and not their heads still applies. Her head is telling her to be "moral" but at the end of the day it's her EMOTIONS that make all of her decisions.

Solution: You got to make her FEEL something. Get her emotions spinning, tease her a bit. Watch her get her rocks off to your push & pull. Don't be a "nice guy" infact, be the exact opposite. That is just her mouth talking, we all know what a woman says and what a woman does are too completely different things. She may have told you some depressing story about dumping her ex because he didn't "respect her enough".. pffft. That is a load of sh!t, he just failed at playing with her emotions. He was boring. Now set the same guy there, with a new perspective on the situation who had properly used her emotions to his advantage then you would watch this girl cave into her NATURAL human desires and **** this guy like the wild animal she truly is.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Warrior74

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She's had sex with 2 people (maybe 5, maybe 100 who knows), and she dumps a guy for putting his hand up his shirt after 4 weeks of dating? getthefvckouttahere! Please don't tell me you are buying that right? Women always try to make themselves look good, that is not the real reason she dumped that guy, just sayin.
 
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