So after chasing this chubby chick for 4 months and failing, I managed to land a date with this girl that has basically model looks (my friends say she's like a 9 and they're all jealous as hell) who seems really interested as she gave me her number without me even asking and insisted that we go for both a hike and get coffee rather than just one of the two like I initially proposed. Myself, I'm a nerdy auditor, and I've never dated a girl of this caliber ever. What are some things to avoid doing and saying around these kinds of girls?
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dating girls way out of your league
- Thread starter blueline
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
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Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
Avoid being boring. Avoid getting into nerd talk, stuff that you might be passionate a lot of times comes across as to nerdy to women.
Obviously, you don't want to behave and act as if you don't belong with a girl of that caliber. Even if you believe it. She'll be with you and you need to embarace that and go with the flow, yet have a plan, and lead.
Obviously, you don't want to behave and act as if you don't belong with a girl of that caliber. Even if you believe it. She'll be with you and you need to embarace that and go with the flow, yet have a plan, and lead.
Interesting thread titleblueline said:
First off - you say she is *out of your league* - this reveals a lot about your mindset
Why do you think she is *out of your league*? It seems like you are alluding to the fact that she looks beautiful, while you look nerdy.
The truth is - for girls, the main determinant of her value in the mating game is her looks.
For guys, your looks are NOT the main determinant of your value in the mating game.
(aside: I'm not saying you should be sloppy with your looks. Go maximize your looks but understand in the end, it's not really about your looks per se)
You need to get the mindset that you are the prize, and she is lucky to score a date with you (here comes Pook again, with his "You are the Prize" - so basic but so true). Once you got the mindset right, all your actions will naturally be *right*
ima str8 up pimp
Banned
Tell her the truth in what you want, don't pressure her, and don't lie to her, it's your responsibility. It's shameful enough you came to this site and asked such a question.blueline said:
It's actually extremely coincidental you make such statements however. I'm pretty much a solid 9 in looks, confident (I religiously wear polo ralph lauren and fitch. I'm a state athlete, soon to be college kid(football player), and have sexed a wide variety of girls personality wise, looks wise never really over a 9 however (that being my physical attraction level) I have made out with a total hottie that she even told mutual friends we did have sex even though we didn't I rate and most would a 10/10.
I say it's coincidental because just today I started chatting up a very sexy 18 yr old with gorgeous 10/10 looks (very tan, sexy body, good white teeth, big blue eyes, the real deal Evander Holyfield you feel me?) and she showed good interest back asking questions I only made the statements, and that's all it takes to get started on something for a guy like me.. I logged on and you're the first post I see haha. I say take advantage, I love the feeling of dating a total hottie, its enough to make a man feel invincible you know? Take advantage, I know I am. Chuch.
Fuc k it, I'm just going to pretend she's a horrible fat monster and do exactly what I've been doing all along. I just didn't realize how attractive she actually is when I was chilling with her yesterday (I was really in the moment and too high anyways), and when I went to see the facebook photos, I was just like "sh1t, son."
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These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
ima str8 up pimp
Banned
"A horrible fat monster."blueline said:
No offense intended... you're a fool, read my post, just don't come back whining if this is the way you decided to behave... They're not easy to bang for a reason when your looks don't match up. Whatever. Chuch.
Bryce556
Senior Don Juan
their is no league, only your league, which every girl is below.
Blue,
What did I tell you before dude? You gotta be confident! You've got a wicked job, college grad, good taste, all that stuff. That makes you a catch. Now you just have to realize that, and once you do women will notice as well.
When you are calm and relaxed, women will feel calm and relaxed around you, which is the #1 thing you want to shoot for. If you feel skittish and worried about what she thinks of you, she will pick up on it and get weirded out. If you are confident in what you are doing however, she will just go along with it. You set the frame, make the reality.
But with that pep-talk out of the way, when it comes to chatting, always remember that women are inherent narcissists: they LOVE talking about themselves. So use that to your advantage. Don't play 21 questions, but generally let her dictate the conversation.
Really though man, get your confidence up. Realize that you are King, that she is in your life because you want her to be. YOU are giving HER the chance to be in your life, and to spend time with you. Not the other way around. YOU call the shots. Be confident, be polite, but always control the frame. And most importantly, enjoy it. You're out with a hottie. Be proud.
What did I tell you before dude? You gotta be confident! You've got a wicked job, college grad, good taste, all that stuff. That makes you a catch. Now you just have to realize that, and once you do women will notice as well.
When you are calm and relaxed, women will feel calm and relaxed around you, which is the #1 thing you want to shoot for. If you feel skittish and worried about what she thinks of you, she will pick up on it and get weirded out. If you are confident in what you are doing however, she will just go along with it. You set the frame, make the reality.
But with that pep-talk out of the way, when it comes to chatting, always remember that women are inherent narcissists: they LOVE talking about themselves. So use that to your advantage. Don't play 21 questions, but generally let her dictate the conversation.
Really though man, get your confidence up. Realize that you are King, that she is in your life because you want her to be. YOU are giving HER the chance to be in your life, and to spend time with you. Not the other way around. YOU call the shots. Be confident, be polite, but always control the frame. And most importantly, enjoy it. You're out with a hottie. Be proud.
ima str8 up pimp
Banned
"You set the pace of reality" could not be more perfect advice. I agree 100%.hansol said:
Hidden-Hand
Don Juan
You sure like to brag huh? It sounds kind of douchebagish. You should humble yourself, because bragging/boasting is never cool. Shows insecurity as well..ima str8 up pimp said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Hidden-Hand
Don Juan
Haha dont 'chase' after women, especially 'chubby chicks', its unattactive.blueline said:
Wow I've never seen this before, yeah she must really like you.
How do you feel about being a 'nerdy auditor'? If you do not like it then bulk up and get a new job. Plus that job sounds pretty darn boring. But as far as advice goes dont seem to be needy, dont inquire into the nature of the relationship between the both of you, and dont go "nice guy" commando on her. Keep it cool, calm and collected...think...suave. And if you lose her somehow dont beat yourself up over it..and go get some other women man, once you know what to do its not hard at all.
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ima str8 up pimp
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A passion for me besides surfing the web, coaching football, laying in bed, relaxing, and playing sports in general is women. It's who I am, what I've experienced, and what I advertise. This is what this website is for, to acknowledge, to improve our game, and lives.. If you don't like it just keep it to yourself, it's really that simple. I see you're being genuine though, I appreciate your concern, but trust me. I can handle myselfHidden-Hand said:
. What you read about me is what makes me who I am, women choose me, I'm just trying to do positive things. You understand. Chuch.Jorge Gonzalez
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What an interesting statement! You're right, being out with a totally hot chick on your arm is an incredible rush and a real boost to the ego. It can make you feel like you're the king of the world - well, until you eff it up anywayima str8 up pimp said:
Why should this be though? Doesn't everyone around here say you should not take your confidence and self esteem from a woman? So why does your ego go through the roof when you're with a hottie?
Blueline, don't say you're a nerdy auditor. I don't know how much auditors make, but I had a friend of mine who was a CPA and he did quite well. Dude, you work with money, there isn't anything sexier than that!
You're out of college, you got the good job now, you are coming into your own now as a man, and your value is skyrocketing.
Don't be overwhelmed by her beauty. YOU'RE THE PRIZE.
Don't be nervous! Be cool, relaxed, and confident (but don't walk around too puffed up like you've got a stick up your behind).
Try to be funny in a natural way. Don't act needy, desperate, or jealous. Try to have and be fun.
Enjoy yourself.
Hidden-Hand
Don Juan
ima str8 up pimp said:A passion for me besides surfing the web, coaching football, laying in bed, relaxing, and playing sports in general is women. It's who I am, what I've experienced, and what I advertise. This is what this website is for, to acknowledge, to improve our game, and lives.. If you don't like it just keep it to yourself, it's really that simple. I see you're being genuine though, I appreciate your concern, but trust me. I can handle myself
Jorge Gonzalez
Atleast you know the real point of this website. And yeah I understand where you are coming from, I meant no disrespect. Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
Chuch.Hidden-Hand said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.