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Dating girls that are "Tom-boy-ish."

spiegel549

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I am really into girls that are "Tom-boy-ish." Now I am not saying the short haired, manly lesbian look. I am saying girls that are down to play sports, not big on make up, not afraid to chip a nail or get dirty, but then at night can really doll up and look like a sexy woman.

I have been dating this one that is really sexy but is like hanging out with one of my boys lol. She talks aggressive, she is real blunt, open about any subject etc.

When she is texting me she can be really "cutsie & girly" but in person she has this "tough shell" like one of my boys. Still lots of kino and flirting but just not like the typical girly girly.

Have any of you experienced/dated girls like these? Would love to hear about it.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Yes, they are fun.

A few issues I've noticed with these types, is sometimes they can be overly sensitive to where you and her stand, and they're less susceptible to game. Whereas when you pull a NC on a coniving BPD girly girl. She'll try some conniving thing to get you back, like get fake boobs or offer up more blow jobs, and act nice for a while. While the OP described women will take it more personal and just think you're an a$$hole and move on.

Which, being said, isn't really an issue I guess :) and should be a good thing, but if you're in the mind set of constantly running game then you're just going to retract this type of woman.
 

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That's too weird. You are going to end up seeing her as "one of the boys" in the long run anyways, since you describe her as such. No girl that acts like a guy can be sexy. She must be some macho girl like Brittney Griner. Goodluck with that.
 

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Ronaldo7 said:
That's too weird. You are going to end up seeing her as "one of the boys" in the long run anyways, since you describe her as such. No girl that acts like a guy can be sexy. She must be some macho girl like Brittney Griner. Goodluck with that.

Ignore this noob^.


A girl that isnt afraid to get dirty yet knows when to be a woman is a pretty sexy thing.
 

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It has good and bad aspects.

my last LTR was a tom boy.

The lack of feminine characteristics became a negative for me.

She hardly ever wore dresses and had no high heels....her feet
were really nice as a result, but I want a lady to look like
one to maintain attraction.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I just recently started hanging out with a Marine chick who did gymnastics for 15 years. Today she texted me some pics of what she's gonna wear and told me what she wanted me to do to her. HAHAHA
 

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**Update**

Thanks for your responses.

Would like to get your opinions on a recent update with this chick.

Today was our 3rd time getting together. Beach/Gym/Food "date" today.

She is an awesome girl, we share a ton of interests but the "tom-boy" thing is throwing me off. She's really blunt and open which is refreshing but talks a lot of her guy friends. 90% of her friends are guys, which honestly doesn't bother me. What got me thinking today is she goes "yeah a lot of the guys I hang out with start to like me and it makes things awkward when we hang out."

I am thinking to myself.....I thought this was a date LOL...am I just a dude she is hanging out with? Or is she Sh!t testing me? Either way I played it cool and just went along.

She asks me to hang out A LOT...and does tons of kino with me. She literally wants to spend the entire day with me when we get together...I think its odd that she wants to spend day/night with me but when I go to kiss her at the end of night, I get the cheek.

This worth the investment? Just keep playing it cool and having fun with her and see what happens?
 

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spiegel549 said:
Thanks for your responses.

Would like to get your opinions on a recent update with this chick.

Today was our 3rd time getting together. Beach/Gym/Food "date" today.

She is an awesome girl, we share a ton of interests but the "tom-boy" thing is throwing me off. She's really blunt and open which is refreshing but talks a lot of her guy friends. 90% of her friends are guys, which honestly doesn't bother me. What got me thinking today is she goes "yeah a lot of the guys I hang out with start to like me and it makes things awkward when we hang out."

I am thinking to myself.....I thought this was a date LOL...am I just a dude she is hanging out with? Or is she Sh!t testing me? Either way I played it cool and just went along.

She asks me to hang out A LOT...and does tons of kino with me. She literally wants to spend the entire day with me when we get together...I think its odd that she wants to spend day/night with me but when I go to kiss her at the end of night, I get the cheek.

This worth the investment? Just keep playing it cool and having fun with her and see what happens?
Fck that $hit. I'll tell you one thing, after reading this, don't listen to my earlier post.

Edit: this girl blew it. Game on. Show her what you can do.
 
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Dude if she won't do a kiss close, she's leading you on, doing it for the chase. Should've asked her right out about "No kiss?" so you can hear it from her straight that she's friendzoning you. She probably has another option in mind she's hoping will chase her and keeping you on the backburner, but allowing yourself to come second is chump stuff, you'll lose respect from her anyway.

IMO cancel the next date and force some distance for a few days so that the next time she spends time with you she'll be more willing feeling like she's losing you.
 

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When you go in for a kiss and she gives you the cheek, THAT is your moment to show who you are.

As she turns her head you stop before your lips touch her cheek. You mutter "whoa" with a little chuckle. Look her directly in the eye with a devilish grin and with a slight pause say "see you around". Turn and walk out of there. Do not contact her again. The ball is in her court and she must demonstrate that she is interested in you sexually before you will spend another minute with her.

If she requests another hangout session say sure but maybe some other time "I have a date". Essentially letting her know where you stand. Continue to blow her off until she shows high interest. You are wasting your time otherwise.

Say no to the friendzone.

I've used this line before:

Her: Why can't we just hang out as friends.
Me: Cuz I'm too busy hanging out with girls who are interested.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Update

Thanks for the responses my bros. Yeah any female I have ever pursued with a lot of "guy friends" has never worked out well lol.

I met a few new girls over the past few days so I stopped contacting her. She reached out once to get together and I was legit busy with work so didn't see her.

This is why spinning plates is so damn important, and personally....avoiding girls that act like your guy friend is another good one lol. The "tom-boyish" thing is cool at first but the girly girls are much more interesting.

Thanks guys.
 

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If she gives you the friend line...

All you have to say is "I have enough friends. See ya when I see ya."



Usually I like tom-boys but this girl just may be a bad apple.
 
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