"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dating A Survivor Chick.

SilverSliver

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I have a question. Has anyone dated or tried to date a chick which I have (from reading) would profile as a "Survivor". Someone who had a messed up past, then goes off to make good money , has a house, no kids, a nice car etc... Basically doesn't financially need a man. I tried a while ago with probably an 8, who made approx 150K a year. It started good and then went downhill fast until I told her that I wasn't dealing with her attitude and hung up. That was 3 days ago. Now I have forgotten for the most part and I have back-ups, but I am curious for any tips for any future encounters. The term where I read it was also followed by "Too Hard/Not worth the effort" and that may be what you all say. I will say there is some validity to that as it is kind of hard to be the Manly Hunter Provider, when she makes double what you do.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Prodigy746

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It will be hard because those kind of girls will be too controling. They dont need you so they will expect you to do everything she says. Ofcourse if you get her hooked in some other ways that she cant stop thinking about you it will be different. If she always has fun with you and the sex is great than it really wont matter.
 

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I think theyre the best kinda girls, Hardest aswell though really, Just need to be very dominant and a good example to follow, i wouldnt bother unless i was very succesful myself.
 

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Let somebody else "rescue" the survivor.
 

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sebastionay said:
I think theyre the best kinda girls, Hardest aswell though really, Just need to be very dominant and a good example to follow, i wouldnt bother unless i was very succesful myself.

So what is your strategy in this situation?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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DonJuan11

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SilverSliver said:
I have a question. Someone who had a messed up past, then goes off to make good money , has a house, no kids, a nice car etc... Basically doesn't financially need a man. I tried a while ago with probably an 8, who made approx 150K a year. It started good and then went downhill fast until I told her that I wasn't dealing with her attitude and hung up. That was 3 days ago. Now I have forgotten for the most part and I have back-ups, but I am curious for any tips for any future encounters. The term where I read it was also followed by "Too Hard/Not worth the effort" and that may be what you all say. I will say there is some validity to that as it is kind of hard to be the Manly Hunter Provider, when she makes double what you do.
You answered your own question. To date someone older who makes more money than you do is hard. Ideally, women look for a man who can protect them and take care of them. If they are making more money than the man, they feel they have the power to protect themselves and will find a man essentially second string. Hence you get the "I am better than you stuck up" attitude and as you all know, its difficult to be in a relationship with somone like that.
 

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Its not an ideal situation to be in..

If you make the money an issue then that'll effect things. It should not be an issue to you. By thinking too much about it, it means you're really saying you're not strong enough to deal with her having more money than you.

If women want to be the provider and in control then let them off but they'll probably end up with an AFC who does what he's told.
 

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I have noticed she surrounds herself with a lot of controllable friends. I don't alk to her nearly as much anymore. We will have our little fights and I'll tell her to call me when she drops the attitude. Which she will in 2-4 weeks. The funny thing is I realized that she wants/needs me more around then the other way. I am naturally a nice guy (unfortunately) and have to keep in mind to make her jump to my tune. No I haven't had sex with her and like I said she takes up a lot smaller part of my life then before. On the other hand at this point She's spent at least as much cash on me if not more. Which is kind of nice if unusual. I wll also say I get a lot more respect then her otherfriends do. While it wasn't what I was going for at first, I guess it's altogether ben productive, at least I'm not wasting a bunch of time/money. Now that being said I think she would make a good LTR and while she is definately on my back burner I wouldn't mind nudging it towards that if possible. I've gotten it to the point where I am seen as a man and on equal footing, so she is not nearly as stuck up. I also got her to understand I got things to do and don't have time to screw around with her and especially any games, theres other women, my career and hobbies taking up a lot of time. It's at the point where she is chasing me far more then the other way around. But she's chasing more for a "Friend" or as she likes to say her "pretend boyfriend" then anything else. any advice on what to do?

P.S. My usual response to her "I think of you as my kinda pretend boyfriend" is "Well I want to pretend breakup because our pretend sex is horrible"

P.S.S. DonJuan11 not that it probably matters much but she is actually 5 years younger.
 

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SilverSliver said:
P.S. My usual response to her "I think of you as my kinda pretend boyfriend" is "Well I want to pretend breakup because our pretend sex is horrible"
I like that one, but why aren't you having sex?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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