Ok, for my first ever ?. at the place i work at there is a beautiful girl i've layed off usin any DJ methods because shes mormon and i'm not. personally i've got no problem with it. but i dont know if i should just treat her like any other woman. any help would be appreicated. thanks
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
datin a mormon?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
~JC Jedi 007~
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Mormons believe in having multiple wives.
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Make sure you study alternative interpretations of mormon bible to dispute any defenses she might put up.
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My ex-boss was a mormon. Mormon's are only allowed to date and marry other mormons.
If she's a devout mormon she won't date you.
If she's a devout mormon she won't date you.
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Hahahahaha good luck.
Mormonism; never could understand it. Oh yes, how I cannot stand their coming to the door and bothering me about trying to show me the "truth."
Mormonism; never could understand it. Oh yes, how I cannot stand their coming to the door and bothering me about trying to show me the "truth."
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Livin' in Utah
Hey there,
Here are some things about (good) Mormon girls that are college age or above. If you want a LTR with them, it's in your best interest to be Mormon as well. Getting married in an LDS Temple is stressed from day 1 of a Mormon Girl's youth, and only Mormons (in good standing) can get married in the temple.
You may not be looking to marry her, but another principle taught is that you should only date the types of people that you plan on marrying (aka other Mormons). Not every mormon girl adheres to that principle because girls will be girls and date the coolest/hottest/funnest guy instead of the nice mormon dude. There are Mormon AFCs.
However, with such emphasis on marriage and family in the LDS faith, there is some backlash. And fortunately, not every Mormon girl is looking to get married ASAP.
Living in Utah, it's not uncommon for 18 year old freshman at BYU to get engaged within their first or second year of college. It's also not uncommon for a couple to get engaged within 6 months of dating.
This next portion has no scientific backing but from my experience with Mormon girls, I've gone out with about 10 mormon girls in the past year, and 2 of them were more one or two dates, and I'm friends with female co-workers and neighbors who are mormon as well.
Some things that can help you see if a Mormon girl is rebellious and the higher chances of hooking up:
If they watch rated "R" movies, that is a sign that they could be more rebellious. Some mormons are so paranoid about rated "r" movies that they'll only watch them if they're on TV or rented from a video store that edits movies.
If they drink caffeinated beverages (i.e. Mountain Dew, Coke, Red Bull, Coffee, etc.) On BYU, you cannot find a caffeinated beverage; they even serve caffeine-free Barqs root beer in Utah.
If they drink alcohol, that's a huge sign they're rebels. Caffeine is frowned upon in the LDS world but acceptable; alcohol is a definite NO-NO.
Find out how many guys she's made out with. Since mormons are christian-based, chastity is a big thing. If they aren't virgins, they can't marry in the temple. Temple marriage is important, read above. So in the regular world, it's the number of guys' they've slept with, but in the mormon world, it's the number of guys they've made out with. SEX is a NO-NO, but Making Out is a personal judgement call. I know of girls that are waiting to kiss a guy until they're engaged or until they're married. And I've met Mormon girls that have made out with 40+ guys, and they're only freshman in college. At BYU, there was an acronym NCMO (Non-committal Making Out); it was frowned upon, but it still happens.
Those are just some things I've noticed about Mormon girls. There are obviously exceptions, every girl is different, but from a basic guideline, I think it's pretty good. If she's a devout Mormon and intends to stay that way, the farthest a non-mormon will get is a consensual make out. If she's devout but a little rebellious, your chances of going further than making out increase.
You should ask her if she's ever heard of NCMO (pronounced "Nick-Moe") and just tell her you heard that at BYU it's well-known and ask her what she thinks of it.
BobbyJ
And just to clarify, Mormons used to believe in multiple wives, aka polygamy, but is no longer practiced, except by rogue/fundamentalist mormons. These fundamentalists are not endorsed by the LDS church and are not in good standing with the LDS church and state government.
Hey there,
Here are some things about (good) Mormon girls that are college age or above. If you want a LTR with them, it's in your best interest to be Mormon as well. Getting married in an LDS Temple is stressed from day 1 of a Mormon Girl's youth, and only Mormons (in good standing) can get married in the temple.
You may not be looking to marry her, but another principle taught is that you should only date the types of people that you plan on marrying (aka other Mormons). Not every mormon girl adheres to that principle because girls will be girls and date the coolest/hottest/funnest guy instead of the nice mormon dude. There are Mormon AFCs.
However, with such emphasis on marriage and family in the LDS faith, there is some backlash. And fortunately, not every Mormon girl is looking to get married ASAP.
Living in Utah, it's not uncommon for 18 year old freshman at BYU to get engaged within their first or second year of college. It's also not uncommon for a couple to get engaged within 6 months of dating.
This next portion has no scientific backing but from my experience with Mormon girls, I've gone out with about 10 mormon girls in the past year, and 2 of them were more one or two dates, and I'm friends with female co-workers and neighbors who are mormon as well.
Some things that can help you see if a Mormon girl is rebellious and the higher chances of hooking up:
If they watch rated "R" movies, that is a sign that they could be more rebellious. Some mormons are so paranoid about rated "r" movies that they'll only watch them if they're on TV or rented from a video store that edits movies.
If they drink caffeinated beverages (i.e. Mountain Dew, Coke, Red Bull, Coffee, etc.) On BYU, you cannot find a caffeinated beverage; they even serve caffeine-free Barqs root beer in Utah.
If they drink alcohol, that's a huge sign they're rebels. Caffeine is frowned upon in the LDS world but acceptable; alcohol is a definite NO-NO.
Find out how many guys she's made out with. Since mormons are christian-based, chastity is a big thing. If they aren't virgins, they can't marry in the temple. Temple marriage is important, read above. So in the regular world, it's the number of guys' they've slept with, but in the mormon world, it's the number of guys they've made out with. SEX is a NO-NO, but Making Out is a personal judgement call. I know of girls that are waiting to kiss a guy until they're engaged or until they're married. And I've met Mormon girls that have made out with 40+ guys, and they're only freshman in college. At BYU, there was an acronym NCMO (Non-committal Making Out); it was frowned upon, but it still happens.
Those are just some things I've noticed about Mormon girls. There are obviously exceptions, every girl is different, but from a basic guideline, I think it's pretty good. If she's a devout Mormon and intends to stay that way, the farthest a non-mormon will get is a consensual make out. If she's devout but a little rebellious, your chances of going further than making out increase.
You should ask her if she's ever heard of NCMO (pronounced "Nick-Moe") and just tell her you heard that at BYU it's well-known and ask her what she thinks of it.
BobbyJ
And just to clarify, Mormons used to believe in multiple wives, aka polygamy, but is no longer practiced, except by rogue/fundamentalist mormons. These fundamentalists are not endorsed by the LDS church and are not in good standing with the LDS church and state government.
Thanks guys, well last night during our break i noticed that she had on a hot pink thong (not too sure if that counts for much but one can always hope). but i'm gonna take her with me to see a movie monday and i'll see what happens.