dates where girls make you pay

[comic_relief]

backbreaker, that is a wonderful tip and I agree with it. I use that all the time as well, but I usually know the girl and they won't do that. I have had one girl give me a problem like that. It was interesting, but I moved on quick.

comic_relief

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I think there's an issue with guy's going out with women who are still in the "unsure" zone and treating the outing as if it were a date with a woman they are in a relationship with. I'm often out with women who I consider "friends" but in no way is it a date and I don't allude that it may be one. Besides, it's easy when you don't sarge women who don't believe it's the guy's job to provide for them, especially if they aren't in a relationship.

 

[backbreaker]

I have made an exception

when the girl I knew had a thing for me and I knew it took a lot for her to actually ask me out (I don't know why.. she was actually pretty cute) but i knew she didn't have alot of money, so I wasn'going to ask her to pay. Was actually one of the better dates I went on.. too bad she was a clingy low self esteem having cvnt


nothing is in black and white

 

[bigjohnson]

You asked her out, you offer to buy. Actually I just usually offer/try to pay - a few drinks or a meal is nothing and it's one social artifice I don't mind taking advantage of.

 

[Interceptor]

^^
Well said, Big Johnson.

Honestly, I think the BEST solutions is the following:

IF you invited HER out, then expect to pay, and expect that SHE will be expecting you to take care of the tab.
I've had plenty of dates where I paid for the first couple of times, and then SHE did a couple times afterwards. Very nice, don't you think?
OK, then, give your potential woman the benefit of the doubt. Treat her well.
Unless she gives you reasons NOT to. Good so far?

Ok, next.
You and her "meet up" somewhere.
Assume that she will take care of her end. Don't offer to pay if she hasn't asked. If you offer before she asks (if she even does at all) you may be coming off as a supplicating AFC. Not good. And not good for our purposes anymore.

Finally,
You and her "meet up" but she expects you to pay for her.
Not a good sign.
Be a gentleman, don't make a scene. Pay for her and have a good time anyway.
Then.......

NEXT!

 

[mexican_player2]

On the contrary, me giving in is paying and thinking it's the "right thing to do".. I'm paying to shut you up and get you home so I don't' have to see you gain without getting into confrontation. I mean you think i really give a fvck about a 30-40 dollar ticket? That's not even worth bringing up.

damn, i didnt wanted to pay 4 bucks, and u pay 40, if that happened to me i would run away so she has to pay by washing dishes.

40 bucks? what did u buy lobster?

damnn

 

[mexican_player2]

So this guy still hasn't realized that he was considered a cheap punk?
(Man, and I tried to be "refined" about it too.)

What a doof.
Hey good luck, "playa"!

ROFL.

It's quite obvious you have a way to go before you become a Man.
Not in this lifetime , buddy.
GTFO , loser.


Listen, moron. What you failed to realize is that a REAL Man has the financial MEANS to "PROVIDE" for his selected Woman.
You obviously are living in a junkyard in a cardboard box, and can barely afford to eat, let alone take out a woman like only a REAL MAN can do.
Not only are you being intentionally stupid, but you're pathetic.
You raised Hell because some sweet girl wanted a drink. You cheap punk. She didn't want a yacht, dork. She wanted a measly 2 dollar drink.
Face Reality. Or be a celibate wannabe. Which BTW, you are already accomplishing.


The metaphors of the Four basic masculine traits are there for a purpose.

To understand our own (for you, the lack thereof) Masculinity.
Theses traits, punk, are the basis of our creation, and the basic traits Feminine WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO!


We are Lovers. Because we provide women with Sex, for (both) our Pleasure and for Procreation.
We are Providers. Because we provide for ourselves, our women, and our families. We don't complain if we want to pay for something for a woman we are dating.A real Masculine Man makes enough MONEY, dork!
We are productive, ambitious, and industrious. We have a future, and we have prospects. Something you don't have, living in a cardboard box in a junkyard. BTW,when was the last time you took a bath and brushed your teeth?
We are Hunters. Because We go out and hunt down our dreams and aspirations, and we make them our reality. Be it a job, money, a car, or a woman. We have courage. We have the balls to go out and get what we want. Be it food, a house, whatever.
We are Warriors. Because we have courage, and our physical and mental strength to protect ourselves and our families in case of danger. We can create plans, and act on them to avoid conflicts or disasters. We are Men of Action and that can be in Defense or on planning on some project for our defense and protection. We are in control so that nothing happens to our families who are dependent on us.

The "symp" is YOU, punk. You're more AFC than you want to realize.

And you have been OWNED by a REAL Man.
Now STFU and go in your corner, jackass.

lol, whatever dude, i got more money than you could ever imagine

it seems that you are a captain save a hoe, keep trickin bro so that your girl pay for true macks like me.

remember, purse first, ass last

 

[mexican_player2]

So this guy still hasn't realized that he was considered a cheap punk?
(Man, and I tried to be "refined" about it too.)

What a doof.
Hey good luck, "playa"!

ROFL.

It's quite obvious you have a way to go before you become a Man.
Not in this lifetime , buddy.
GTFO , loser.


Listen, moron. What you failed to realize is that a REAL Man has the financial MEANS to "PROVIDE" for his selected Woman.
You obviously are living in a junkyard in a cardboard box, and can barely afford to eat, let alone take out a woman like only a REAL MAN can do.
Not only are you being intentionally stupid, but you're pathetic.
You raised Hell because some sweet girl wanted a drink. You cheap punk. She didn't want a yacht, dork. She wanted a measly 2 dollar drink.
Face Reality. Or be a celibate wannabe. Which BTW, you are already accomplishing.


The metaphors of the Four basic masculine traits are there for a purpose.

To understand our own (for you, the lack thereof) Masculinity.
Theses traits, punk, are the basis of our creation, and the basic traits Feminine WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO!


We are Lovers. Because we provide women with Sex, for (both) our Pleasure and for Procreation.
We are Providers. Because we provide for ourselves, our women, and our families. We don't complain if we want to pay for something for a woman we are dating.A real Masculine Man makes enough MONEY, dork!
We are productive, ambitious, and industrious. We have a future, and we have prospects. Something you don't have, living in a cardboard box in a junkyard. BTW,when was the last time you took a bath and brushed your teeth?
We are Hunters. Because We go out and hunt down our dreams and aspirations, and we make them our reality. Be it a job, money, a car, or a woman. We have courage. We have the balls to go out and get what we want. Be it food, a house, whatever.
We are Warriors. Because we have courage, and our physical and mental strength to protect ourselves and our families in case of danger. We can create plans, and act on them to avoid conflicts or disasters. We are Men of Action and that can be in Defense or on planning on some project for our defense and protection. We are in control so that nothing happens to our families who are dependent on us.

The "symp" is YOU, punk. You're more AFC than you want to realize.

And you have been OWNED by a REAL Man.
Now STFU and go in your corner, jackass.

welcome to sosymp.com

i never made a scene lol, i just told her, ok i'll pay but next time you know, is split

Real man?, you meant Real Trick

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

You asked her out, you offer to buy. Actually I just usually offer/try to pay - a few drinks or a meal is nothing and it's one social artifice I don't mind taking advantage of.

I think this came up in another thread but I'll bring it up again. Given the premise that if you ask, you pay; how often do you pay your buds way when you ask them to get together for a guy's night out? How many rounds do you regularly buy?

 

[mexican_player2]

Mexico is different than the US Though, remember that.

the truth is i get more girls in the US than in Mexico.

and BELIEVE me, girls in the US dont like that chivalrous chit, i have hooked up with cheerleaders and chit, the way i get them? By slaping their asses and telling them that i have a big **** and that im a mack.

they like that stuff, they dont like "chivalrous" guys.

 

[mexican_player2]

I think there's an issue with guy's going out with women who are still in the "unsure" zone and treating the outing as if it were a date with a woman they are in a relationship with. I'm often out with women who I consider "friends" but in no way is it a date and I don't allude that it may be one. Besides, it's easy when you don't sarge women who don't believe it's the guy's job to provide for them, especially if they aren't in a relationship.

YES, you get what im saying.

ANYWAY, girls in MEXICO, the NICE girls, will offer to pay some of the bill, if you pay them or you dont thats not the problem we are discussing.

Imagine this...

you ask a girl out right?, she doesnt like you, but still accepts the offer.

then she starts telling you she is hungry and want to eat something. you ask what she likes, she starts saying a nice restaurant, and AS CHUMP as you are, you accept it AND you PAY for it.

from that day on, any date will be similar, she will be getting free meals by a chump. and she wont give you play.

that had happened to me.

 

[Play the Game]

If you don't feel like paying, then don't pay. How hard can it be?
I personally wouldn't pay a 40 dollar bill if it wasn't a long time gf or someone i knew very well. Making a fuss over <$10 dollars though would come of as being cheap and stingy.
So just avoid making a big deal out of small things. If you get a bad vibe just pay for her the 5 dollar drink and ditch her.

If you don't want to be the chump that pays for dinner, then don't be one its that simple. Just expect that she's paying her half. If she forgets her wallet, tell her she's paying for the next one. When i want to show a girl that she's paying for herself i usually pay for one ticket first, so she knows what to do.
Most women are like that, you show them the social situation and they'll adhere to it. If she doesn't then she's a hot headed b1tch.

I buy stuff for my friends, my boss takes me out for lunch and pays. Sometimes its just a social thing to do. If someone takes you out for lunch, that means the person being taken out doesn't have to pay. If you're taking someone out, you're the one paying. So if you don't have the cash to spend... don't say i'm taking you out for dinner. Say i'm hungry let's find something to eat.

To sum things up in a chris rock way... If you don't wanna be a chump:

- have a back bone
- learn to distinguish social situations where you might look cheap vs. when you are being taken advantage of.
- Control the frame and use subtle hints to help clueless people pay for themselves

and the most important one...

- NEVER pay for a women that EXPECTS her man to pay.

 

[backbreaker]

damn, i didnt wanted to pay 4 bucks, and u pay 40, if that happened to me i would run away so she has to pay by washing dishes.

40 bucks? what did u buy lobster?

damnn

man that's on the cheap end. you'd cry if you saw my restaurant bills when I go out with established dates... I LOVE to go out to eat. 40 bucks usually wont' cover my drink tab, espically at chili's.

I remember one time down in Sarasota I was at a place called SKOB and I raked up a 275 tab off drinks, crabs and oysters. I was with 2 guy friends of mine.. and it's on the beach and we had nothing better to do than to look at hot ass all day and hit on the women that walked by. had a hell of a time however.

when I go out.. I'm going to get a appitizer.. I'm going to get at least 3-4 drinks.. a true meal and a desert. that's ME.

that's why I don't like taking women who I don't know out to eat, because they get accustomed to expect that type of ****. I like to eat. Which is why I work out 6 days a weeks o I can keep my girlish figure

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Imagine this...

you ask a girl out right?, she doesnt like you, but still accepts the offer.

then she starts telling you she is hungry and want to eat something. you ask what she likes, she starts saying a nice restaurant, and AS CHUMP as you are, you accept it AND you PAY for it.

from that day on, any date will be similar, she will be getting free meals by a chump. and she wont give you play.

that had happened to me.

The majority of men have been in that position. The uncomfortable fact is that many women will accept a date offer not because she is interested in the guy, she's more interested in doing date-like things (especially if all she has to do is show up).

A lot of guys have a problem with figuring out whether or not a woman is truly interested in them. More times than not guys believe that they can make a woman like them by impressing them with stuff in the guise of chivalry. Here's something to consider, are bad-boys popular with women because they are chivalrous?

Here's the thing, you can't buy personality; so if you don't have personality, why not buy something else...

 

[backbreaker]

my snapsis on the above situtation:


again, the problem that most people have is they spend the first date tyring to validate themselves instead of qualifying the date!

I'd take her out to teat... hell I like to eat too! but I see past thoose games... and she's done once I drop her back off. and i got a chance to go and grab something to eat.

however after most action dates, espically my fav.. go cart riding and swimming (you can't DREAM of a better first date. you get to see her damn near naked, you get to get physical by throwing her ass in the water (ask if she can swim.. i made that mistake once)... you do get a bit hungry so it's understandable.. but if we get in the car and before we drive 2 blocks after I pick her up she is spouting on how hungry she is... assuming I don't turn around and drop her ass right back off... again I'm qualifying.

(BTW, any ***** who says they don't want to go swimming because they don't want to f u their hair is automatically a spike in my book... if you don't want o swim because of your hair.. I can imagine some other things you don't like doing because of it either.)

I go into dates to entertain myself and i expect nothing in return. women who show me something I take it as being pleasantly surprised.

 

[KneghtRyder]

well yesterday i asked a girl out as friends (i have a gf but want some back up) so we went for some beers. the girl get a drink (4 bucks) i pay my beer (1 buck) then im about going to get a seat when the cashier said that the girl didnt pay, then she says: oh sorry can you pay for my drink? i forgot my wallet... i put a front on my face then told her that when i go out with girls is half and half. period.

is not about the money...well actually it is... but also this says a lot of her., like she is interested in someone who can pay for her stuff (actually she is kinda poor), selfish, money hungry etc etc.

have u experienced something like it? what do you do in those cases?

dumped a parasite last week....i am not a freaking chauffeur/waitor bus boy for anyone. i 'll work on myself and make myself more confident attractive build up and achieve the high quality candidates out of pure work if i have to..but i aint goin to be anybodys biatch. My ego prevents me

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

dumped a parasite last week....i am not a freaking chauffeur/waitor bus boy for anyone. i 'll work on myself and make myself more confident attractive build up and achieve the high quality candidates out of pure work if i have to..but i aint goin to be anybodys biatch. My ego prevents me

You my good sir, are not a chivalrous fellow! :nono:

 

[Interceptor]

Frank, are you being serious??
Dude, say it ain't so.
He did the right thing, man.
What are you saying?

Dude, you're fvcking with us, aren't you?

 

[comic_relief]

dumped a parasite last week....i am not a freaking chauffeur/waitor bus boy for anyone. i 'll work on myself and make myself more confident attractive build up and achieve the high quality candidates out of pure work if i have to..but i aint goin to be anybodys biatch. My ego prevents me

then why were you dating the parasite if your "ego prevents" you from doing so?

Just a question.

comic_relief

 

[Play the Game]

then why were you dating the parasite if your "ego prevents" you from doing so?

Just a question.

comic_relief

Didn't you read what he said... note the key words:

-Dumped
-Parasite

That's all you have to know.