“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Date with an HB9 on Tuesday, help me out.

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What up guys? Been going on a lot of POF dates over the past 2 months with 6's and 7's. Well just two days ago I was messaged by in my eyes a HB9. Platinum blonde, thin physique, 5'3", tatted up (like myself) just smoking hot.

I messaged her back and forth on POF and number closed and she gave me her digits. I texted her the next day and just set up a date for tuesday and I am picking her up.

I won't fuking lie...it has been a while I felt like this but I am slightly intimated and thats not like me lol. Going out with a 6 or 7 is one thing but an HB9 borderline HB10 on looks well..its got the brain a little rattled up with over thinking.

We are going for Taco's and drinks, and if you saw a picture of her I bet 9/10 of your first thoughts would be "she is down to fuk." but can't judge a book by its cover.

The funny thing is twice now when I make small talk via text she doesn't go for it, but as soon as I mention getting together she responds almost right away hmm?

She told me she loved my tats etc etc. and she did message me first. I am just thinking if I need to "play" this one a little differently then the other pof girls? I am normally confident, funny, lots of kino, and love playfully busting the girls balls. They seem to eat it up.

Please throw your opinion in on this one before Tuesday, thanks men! :up:
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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No, do what you normally do her vagina isn't golden.

Leave small talk for in person, shes doing you a favor by not falling for it. Texting/messaging should only be for scheduling dates and all that.
 

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Frayzer said:
No, do what you normally do her vagina isn't golden.

Leave small talk for in person, shes doing you a favor by not falling for it. Texting/messaging should only be for scheduling dates and all that.
+1

but it isn't carved in stone though. You could boost things if you know the

text game but usually it'll go sideways lol

Every time you are about to send a text just think "how'd you feel if someone

else read your text, especially her female or male friends?"

That's it
 

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spiegel549 said:
Well just two days ago I was messaged by in my eyes a HB9. Platinum blonde, thin physique, 5'3", tatted up (like myself) just smoking hot.
I like short women, although it's hard for me to picture a heavily tattooed girl as an HB9. To each his own though.
 

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Just be yourself and don't over think anything.... nothing else to really say.
 

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Mauser96 said:
Two points.
1. She doesn't respond well to texting....so obviously she doesn't like it, for whatever reason. So stop doing it.


2. When a really hot woman contacts YOU first, it immediately goes to your head and the oneitis starts. Now, I am saying this with the best of intentions, ok? First of all, online dating sites have a higher than average amount of women with "issues" Self-esteem, relationship baggage, kids, several kids by different Dad's, personality disorders. Now don't get me wrong, I have used these sites, and there CAN be decent women on there.....just be aware. Secondly, girls that are HOT, and WITHOUT all the issues I just listed? They will NOT be on dating sites....because they don't need to be . Ever. THEY WILL BE APPROACHED EVERY DAY, EVERYWHERE THEY GO. So, this is just food for thought for you. Why is a woman THIS hot forced to go online to meet men. Why would SHE have to contact a man first?? ALL RED FLAGS.


I hope I am wrong. By all means, go on the date, and let us know how it turns out!!


I understand completely. I ALWAYS have to send out the start up message and when I received this message I thought (this is a fake profile, she won't respond once I answer her, she isn't going to get anywhere etc.) I am still sitting here thinking to myself, especially after reading your post...whats wrong with her? haha. but honestly I am going out to have FUN so worse case she is crazy and maybe I get laid right?

Well the date is set up for tomorrow. She even sent me her address so it seems legit (lets see if she bails)

I figured tacos & drinks at a local happy hour spot is perfect. Not dropping all crazy money on some girl that I don't even know.

Keep you all posted. Lets see how this chick turns out. Hopefully if she is bat sh!t :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: she takes it out on me in the bedroom ;p

P.S. If I don't report back I was kidnapped or killed by some guy with a fake profile. lol..
 

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First of all, as I've mentioned many times before... there are no 9's that are on POF!!

Why would a chick that is damn near perfect scour online dating profiles looking for men?

Chicks who are 8's, 9's, and 10's like these guys claim they date, are not on POF!!

They are already dating/banging dudes that are of importance in real life...why would these chicks go on POF to get messages from AFC's, fat slobs with no jobs, and wannabe DJ's who have nothing to offer them? that is a waste of their time because they are already getting the sh!t they need offline with real men!!

You are going to be very disappointed at the end of your date....I will bet you anything that you won't get anything out of this.

First, you are overrating this chick

Second, you already have this chick at higher value over you

Third, you are assuming you are going to get laid by a chick who doesn't respond well to your texts

Fourth, you are overanalyzing your "game" way too much

Fifth, you are switching up your game and are intimidated by a chick that uses online dating

How the hell do you think you are going to be successful with an attitude like this? You are guaranteed to fail going into this date with this type of thinking!!

A chick is a chick dude....doesn't matter what they look like....you treat them all the same....they all have a pair of t!ts, a pvssy, and an ass.....some are better than others, but when you start placing high value on them and putting yourself below them.....you will fail every time!!

If a chick was really interested in you and had sky high interest...she would respond to your texts!!

She is only responding to the texts you talk about the date....that is low interest!!

A lot of chicks use online dating to get free sh!t from men....free drinks, dinners, and entertainment.

They go on a "date" with a guy....get their free date...then they go home and use another guy the next time....I know a couple of chicks that do this all the time....they get free concerts, sporting events, dinners etc. all paid for by these AFC/beta guys who think they are DTF when they really are not!!

A chick who has high IL will always respond to your texts.....in fact they will be the ones texting you!!

Texting doesn't hurt anything.....it measures IL.....if the chick is not receptive to texts, then you know that your chances of getting laid are slim to none!!
 

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buzzin_frog said:
First of all, as I've mentioned many times before... there are no 9's that are on POF!!

Why would a chick that is damn near perfect scour online dating profiles looking for men?

Chicks who are 8's, 9's, and 10's like these guys claim they date, are not on POF!!

They are already dating/banging dudes that are of importance in real life...why would these chicks go on POF to get messages from AFC's, fat slobs with no jobs, and wannabe DJ's who have nothing to offer them? that is a waste of their time because they are already getting the sh!t they need offline with real men!!

You are going to be very disappointed at the end of your date....I will bet you anything that you won't get anything out of this.

First, you are overrating this chick

Second, you already have this chick at higher value over you

Third, you are assuming you are going to get laid by a chick who doesn't respond well to your texts

Fourth, you are overanalyzing your "game" way too much

Fifth, you are switching up your game and are intimidated by a chick that uses online dating

How the hell do you think you are going to be successful with an attitude like this? You are guaranteed to fail going into this date with this type of thinking!!

A chick is a chick dude....doesn't matter what they look like....you treat them all the same....they all have a pair of t!ts, a pvssy, and an ass.....some are better than others, but when you start placing high value on them and putting yourself below them.....you will fail every time!!

If a chick was really interested in you and had sky high interest...she would respond to your texts!!

She is only responding to the texts you talk about the date....that is low interest!!

A lot of chicks use online dating to get free sh!t from men....free drinks, dinners, and entertainment.

They go on a "date" with a guy....get their free date...then they go home and use another guy the next time....I know a couple of chicks that do this all the time....they get free concerts, sporting events, dinners etc. all paid for by these AFC/beta guys who think they are DTF when they really are not!!

A chick who has high IL will always respond to your texts.....in fact they will be the ones texting you!!

Texting doesn't hurt anything.....it measures IL.....if the chick is not receptive to texts, then you know that your chances of getting laid are slim to none!!
This post is spot on, I mean

Guys will say it's a HB9 and won't post a pic

and then the chick looks like this

I use to be like OP thinking I had to switch my game with hot chicks you actually do less

srs
 

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Thanks for your responses.

When I say HB9 I was referring to strictly looks. Not personality, not the quality of girl she is, looks alone.

I honestly agree with everyone. She is probably a wackjob with issues, BUT at the end of the day I live 15 minutes from her. Worse case scenario I spend $40 on tacos and drinks and a few hours of my time and she is wack.

Best case scenario? Well lets see how tomorrow goes.

My head is always in the game. I may post on this asking for guidance which is most greatly appreciated but tomorrow in no way shape or form will I be anything but my usual confident, ball busting self, time to rock out :up:

Ill post tomorrow night and let you all know how it goes!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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spiegel549 said:
Thanks for your responses.

When I say HB9 I was referring to strictly looks. Not personality, not the quality of girl she is, looks alone.

I honestly agree with everyone. She is probably a wackjob with issues, BUT at the end of the day I live 15 minutes from her. Worse case scenario I spend $40 on tacos and drinks and a few hours of my time and she is wack.

Best case scenario? Well lets see how tomorrow goes.

My head is always in the game. I may post on this asking for guidance which is most greatly appreciated but tomorrow in no way shape or form will I be anything but my usual confident, ball busting self, time to rock out :up:

Ill post tomorrow night and let you all know how it goes!
I've been on more POF dates in my lifetime than you can shake a stick at. If logistic allow, you need to have sex with them ASAP. The first night. Because more than likely, no matter how well you think the first date went, you will probably never see her again. Spending $40 on tacos on one of these girls is frankly too much. Most POF women (especially those with self esteem issues, not mutually exclusive) aren't looking to "date". Sure, they want to be wined and dined and have a little self-esteem top-up, but that's it. They go home from the date, fire up the laptop, and see 567 new messages from other possible suitors.

What I am saying is general. But it holds some valuable truths.
 

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ChrisHughes said:
I've been on more POF dates in my lifetime than you can shake a stick at. If logistic allow, you need to have sex with them ASAP. The first night. Because more than likely, no matter how well you think the first date went, you will probably never see her again. Spending $40 on tacos on one of these girls is frankly too much. Most POF women (especially those with self esteem issues, not mutually exclusive) aren't looking to "date". Sure, they want to be wined and dined and have a little self-esteem top-up, but that's it. They go home from the date, fire up the laptop, and see 567 new messages from other possible suitors.

What I am saying is general. But it holds some valuable truths.
^^^^So much this

It's ridilcous how fast POF women "give it up" I learned that the ones who string you along to wait are usually fuccing some other guy or using you to boost yourself esteem

My rule is/was if I don't smash an internet chick by 2nd date is NEXT
 

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Solomon said:
^^^^So much this

It's ridilcous how fast POF women "give it up" I learned that the ones who string you along to wait are usually fuccing some other guy or using you to boost yourself esteem

My rule is/was if I don't smash an internet chick by 2nd date is NEXT

So here is the update.

I picked the girl up and we went for drinks. Let me tell you...I don't think many guys would of lasted more then 15 minutes with this chick with out breaking down in tears...she...was...BRUTALLY outspoken, aggressive, and had no problem speaking her mind. For me growing up in Brooklyn New York, it was actually refreshing because my entire family is like that so it didn't phase me none lol.

The second she was in my car she started playfully bashing me, so I started doing it back.

She would be like:

HB: I don't like that vest your wearing.
Me: Good I am going to wear it all night just to piss you off.
HB: You like my dress!?
Me: No its ugly.
HB: Whatttt?? You know you like it!
Me: No I really don't, you should take it off
HB: You really don't like my dress?

Once we got drunk she got very touchy. I was aggressive as hell the whole night kissing, kino etc.

She mentioned having her own place so I said hey lets go back and "smoke some weed."

45 Seconds stepping into her apartment she was sitting on her bed with that "have sex me stare." You know what I mean.

We had sex and I have to say...kinkiest most fun sex I have had in a while.

Afterwards she got weird as hell. I am not normally a "cuddler" but after we just had sex I figured id put my arm around her and she literally did not want me touching her lol. Eventually I left thinking onto the next and she is already texting me at 5am lol...fuking WACKOOOOO :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Let me know what you guys think? I'd like to keep smashing it with out having to take her out and spend money every time so advice on that would be great. I am not the best at keeping girls around just to smash.
 

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Espi said:
I think you did fantastic. I think you don't need to know what we think. Keep her number in your cell and text her Thursday night. By then you may be wanting sex again. I wouldn't initiate any texts or calls until tomorrow night. If she initiates texts, answer them, but be short and terse with your responses.

Tomorrow night's text I'd make very direct and brief: "Hi I want you to watch (name of movie) with me tomorrow night at 9. I'll bring wine (or beer or whatever)."
So much this!!

Great job OP, well done
 

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Espi said:
I think you did fantastic. I think you don't need to know what we think. Keep her number in your cell and text her Thursday night. By then you may be wanting sex again. I wouldn't initiate any texts or calls until tomorrow night. If she initiates texts, answer them, but be short and terse with your responses.

Tomorrow night's text I'd make very direct and brief: "Hi I want you to watch (name of movie) with me tomorrow night at 9. I'll bring wine (or beer or whatever)."
Copy that! Thanks guys. As a side note if when it comes to me shooting out a text and say I don't receive a response from her. Do I consider it done and forget it? Or really do I have nothing to lose by trying to reach her again?
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Just to make sure I understand this. Neg more as in "hit her up again?"
 

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spiegel549 said:
Just to make sure I understand this. Neg more as in "hit her up again?"

No, he's suggesting you keep the sarcastic ball busting up, because she's clearly a low-self esteem nut, who gets hornier when you put her in check....playfully.

I'm sure Pair is thinking this chick is BPD.......haha







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I can guarantee you that this chick is sticking around if you continue to put her in her place. Don't hold back, go on the offensive. She has the type of in-yo-face attitude, but when someone challenges her, she will submit and do ALL of the chasing. I wouldn't attempt to ask her out again until at least a week. I'm very certain that she will hit you up much before then. You got her where you want her, now let your indifference seal the deal.

Nicely done and generate more options.
 
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