Alright guys, this coming Wednesday, I have a date with an hb9.5. She is hot beyond belief, and somehow I managed to convince her to get together and have coffee with me. Anyhow, I'd venture to say this will be the most important date I've had in the last 2 or 3 years. Guys out there, give me some advice on how to keep the convo going. I don't know her well, we've only met once, that was three weeks ago when I got her number. Any help will appreciated, I think I can handle my own, but outside opinions are always good.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Date with a 9.5
- Thread starter Rockstar
- Start date
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Rocko
Senior Don Juan
What have you been up to? Where did you get that shirt / bluse / whatever? Where are you from? simple questions with input is all you need
Serialized3
Master Don Juan
Keep your mid-game tight.Speak chick (use expressive language) and build emotional connections.
Example questions:
"What are you passionate about in life?"
"What gives you excitement in your life?"
"Why do you get up in the morning?"
"What are the qualities you look for in a guy?"
All good questions because they will really get her thinking and wondering "Why DO I get up in the morning?" which is a thousand times better than asking her where she lives (snore)...
Also, it seems to me that you're already putting her on a pedestal. Knock it off, or you'll defeat yourself if you think she's above you
Example questions:
"What are you passionate about in life?"
"What gives you excitement in your life?"
"Why do you get up in the morning?"
"What are the qualities you look for in a guy?"
All good questions because they will really get her thinking and wondering "Why DO I get up in the morning?" which is a thousand times better than asking her where she lives (snore)...
Also, it seems to me that you're already putting her on a pedestal. Knock it off, or you'll defeat yourself if you think she's above you
Chemistry
Master Don Juan
A chick’s a chick… remember that, regardless of what you score her
Handle yourself as you would do with any chick. Talk about the things you would do with any other chick, and hope she’s got a grain of personality to go with the looks.
Handle yourself as you would do with any chick. Talk about the things you would do with any other chick, and hope she’s got a grain of personality to go with the looks.
Keep it cool. Keep calm. After the date, come here, and tell us how much better you feel. Even if you don't kiss her or whatever, you will feel much more confident, because "you have dated a hb 9.5" ... and this will give you the confidence to do so again and again 
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
You've already lost, putting her on pedastal like you are doing now.
Dont hype it up. It's just a girl. No big deal.
Dont hype it up. It's just a girl. No big deal.
The Bad Ass Canadian
Master Don Juan
Stop putting so much importance on the outcome of this date. You're already losing, going in with this mindset.
She's obviously above you, and you'll convey this either subtley or in an obvious way.
Go in with the mindset that you won't like her. When you can reframe it so that she's below you you'll act accordingly.
She's obviously above you, and you'll convey this either subtley or in an obvious way.
Go in with the mindset that you won't like her. When you can reframe it so that she's below you you'll act accordingly.
Alright guys, I have my date with the hb9.5 in a few hours. I've put myself more at ease in the last couple days. I've stopped hyping up the date and have more of a care free attitude. also, I've been hooking up with another girl for the last three weeks, so I know that if tonight doesn't go anywhere I have another girl already, so no biggie. i'm sure by tonight I'll be at my most charming, witty, and ****y levels. I'll let you all know how it goes.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being great, this date was a 7.5. I got her laughing and smiling a lot. I couldn't get a true read on whether she was into me or not, but she's probably gonna come do something with me and my friends for 4th of July. The only real problems were that there were lulls in the conversation at some points, which I expected being this was our first time really hanging out. I had to carry the convo too. I probably talked about 60 percent of the time, maybe more. But we'll see how things go from here.
DonJuanForever
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To the originator of this post, tell me does this make sense:
I am in sales, I have a great product, okay?
I've found my market.
But instead of doing presentations and meetings with as many people in my market as I can, I do one presentation and hope to live and accomplish all my financial dreams and goals from that one presentation.
Does that make sense?
No it doesn't.
Just like your one date, that's soooo big, with this onnnneee girl, that you just gotttttaaaa have. Stupid isn't it?
Why don't you just go in the field and approach more hbs?
Why put all your eggs in one Easter Basket?
I am in sales, I have a great product, okay?
I've found my market.
But instead of doing presentations and meetings with as many people in my market as I can, I do one presentation and hope to live and accomplish all my financial dreams and goals from that one presentation.
Does that make sense?
No it doesn't.
Just like your one date, that's soooo big, with this onnnneee girl, that you just gotttttaaaa have. Stupid isn't it?
Why don't you just go in the field and approach more hbs?
Why put all your eggs in one Easter Basket?
Rock on Mr. Rockstar :rockon:
Convos can be tough on the first date, but if overall it went good then that's what is remembered. A couple of lulls are normal. Next time be more engaging and relaxed (not that you weren't on 1st date) For good second date convo tips, relate a couple of lines back to convos from your first date, builds rappaport and time-familiarity. You probably knew that but, just some advice.
If shes smiling and laughing and hanging out with you, then you are on the right path.
Convos can be tough on the first date, but if overall it went good then that's what is remembered. A couple of lulls are normal. Next time be more engaging and relaxed (not that you weren't on 1st date) For good second date convo tips, relate a couple of lines back to convos from your first date, builds rappaport and time-familiarity. You probably knew that but, just some advice.
If shes smiling and laughing and hanging out with you, then you are on the right path.
Dude, if you read the post I wrote earlier today I mentioned that I'm already dating someone currently. An hb7. I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket, I'm just casually looking for an upgrade. I also have tentative dates with an hb8, and an hb8.5 coming up. If the hb9.5 from tonight goes nowhere, I have plenty of backup. I'm not too worried. Yeah, I hyped it up when I started this post, but I was just momentarily excited and never generally act in that manner.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Chemistry
Master Don Juan
There are always lulls in conversation…
You know what the best indication is that a first date went well? Before you part ways you put your arm around her in your car / at the train station / at the bus station and she moves to you, showing IL on her part, then you move closer for a kiss close as she’s about to leave and she reciprocates.
It’s that simple… end every first date like that, and you’ll know exactly where you stand. None of that what does this mean, what does that mean BS after for you to deliberate over, or for you to post on here, instead you get a straight up affirmation of her IL.
You know what the best indication is that a first date went well? Before you part ways you put your arm around her in your car / at the train station / at the bus station and she moves to you, showing IL on her part, then you move closer for a kiss close as she’s about to leave and she reciprocates.
It’s that simple… end every first date like that, and you’ll know exactly where you stand. None of that what does this mean, what does that mean BS after for you to deliberate over, or for you to post on here, instead you get a straight up affirmation of her IL.
The Bad Ass Canadian
Master Don Juan
That is a really good way of guaging interest.Ashley Chuckles said:
Personally, when i'm out with a new girl, I always assume she's interested. The thought that she may not be, never enters my head.
When I go in with that kind of mindset, I always act normally and never try and "impress" her. I've never had a girl not kiss me after a date... the problem is, I'm usually the one who ends up not interested. At least, that's how it's been going lately.
Zerotwoonenine
Senior Don Juan
its all about questions, keep your mouth shut about your self and ask about her, then responds and show that you are listening. There is a good tip about it in the hall of fame.
More details please. What did she respond well to, did you qualify/tease her, etc. You can't just build up our anticipatioon and leave it at 'it was a 7.5.'
Talking a lot isn't a bad thing, and a lull can be a test to see if how you handle silence. However I'm worried you subconsciously put her on a pedestal, and failed to adequately tease the hottie. Thoughts?
Talking a lot isn't a bad thing, and a lull can be a test to see if how you handle silence. However I'm worried you subconsciously put her on a pedestal, and failed to adequately tease the hottie. Thoughts?