"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Date Tommorow Night Some Insight?

tmac15

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Alright fellas I got a date for tomorrow night. Need some advice on how to approach this, long story short. Took this girl out about a month ago. It went alright, asked if she wanted to hangout again, she said yes. Then she blew me off. Haven't talked to her since today (about 3-4 weeks of no interaction), and asked if she wanted to go out tomorrow night. She said yes.

Things I know to do
Be confident
Be dominant
Be fun
Tease her
Lead her
Use some kino
Make her invest instead of just show interest
Don't be needy
Dont ask her out again at the end of the night make her wonder
(and somehow be myself when trying to be all these)

Anything else?? Share some stories our ideas that you think would be helpful. Thanks guys
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Vice

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"and somehow be myself when trying to be all these"

You obviously need to relax. You're making this WAY too important. Talk to her and playfully tease her when it's deserved, and that's it. You will know what to do. Where are you taking her?
 

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Show no interest whatsoever for the duration of the night. Pretty much ignore her. Talk to other girls. Hell even hit on them. Push her buttons and make her mad. Disagree with almost everything she says. If she asks if you want to go to her place say no the first few times. Haha I'll probably catch a lot of **** for this approach but if you're good at what you do it will work. Takes A LOT of confidence though and you need to be able to read her well and reframe if you're going too far. But after three weeks with no interaction this is the approach I'd go with. No offense but her interest level is probably **** right now.

When you get into the car ready to drive her home wait a few seconds and make small talk while "your car warms up." Ask her if she's wearing a different perfume from the last time...she'll answer yes or no it really doesn't matter. Ask her if you can smell it (cause you don't believe her if she says no or because you want to smell it more if she says yes). 99% of the time she'll hold out her hand so you can smell her wrist. Grab her hand and pull her over to you so your face is against her neck. Now there's smelling and then there's SMELLING. SMELL her neck. Brush your nose and your lips against it. Breathe heavily against it. Then kiss it. Five to ten seconds tops. Then pull away, start the car, and start driving. This is a rather advanced technique and may be a little over your head (I have no idea where you stand as far as confidence and frame control go) but it works really well if done properly. I made it up as far as I know so you probably won't be able to get much feedback on it's results except for from me, and it work's really well for me. This is leading to a fvck close by the way. Not just a nice ending to the night. Escalate anyway you can from there (Kissing while driving and such......if she's not quite there when you get to her place make out with her in the parking lot). If she pushes you away or gets mad, then you didn't have a chance in hell with her anyways and you'll save yourself a lot of time.
 

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You've pretty much got everything in your list about what to do.

I'd say the biggest thing is just let loose and have fun. The problem alot of AFC's make is they try to be James Bond on the Day 2 and be too smooth. Don't be afraid to be loud and silly.

A girl has chosen to come out with you on a Day 2 so she already has interest in you. She just wants to confirm in her mind that you are the same fun guy she met when you first met her. The interest is there, just don't mess it up.
 

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I'm taking her to an comedy improv show that my coworker is in. I'm gonna take her to go get drinks at some local bar first than show than dinner.

The post about pulling her close and making out with her, to be honest I don't have that kind of game. I think after the date i'm just gonna say it was fun and leave it at that. From here on out, i'm not gonna contact her. I believe in mutual interest, I've contacted her twice it's her turn now. And you guys are right don't think too much just react and have a good time.

Fellas I came across this board on accident about a month ago and it helps quite a bit. I've had success with women in the past and quite a bit of failures. It's nice to know that i'm not alone. Keep the insight, stories and critique coming they help to see all angles and perspectives.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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trd323

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Stop the games. If this girl is confident, independent, and pretty. She will see all your BS. You need to play your card. When you take specific advice from other people about when to call, what to say, and what actions to take they are hopefully saying from their experience and thats their personlity, But if you try to do those things and its not yourself; the girl will really ask what happened to the guy that I met. Its like showing two different personalities.
 

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Your post trd323 was dead on. I was mainly myself and I sprinkled in a little bit of those things I mentioned. It was great, prolly one of the better dates I've been on in a long time. I was really hitting on all cylinders during the date. I didn't notice any of these things till the next day but I was really relaxed. Lot's jokes, lots of teasing back and forth and lot's of kino, holding hands, she gave me playful punches multiple times after I teased her. Even a little bit of jealousy popped up, I pulled out my phone to see who texted me and she commented who is so important that you have to text right now (I hit her back with some sarcasm) I even gave her my scarf to wear and forgot to get it back from her. She texted me later the night about it.

She told me it was really fun at the end of the night. The only ?? I have now, is what do I do next. My gut is to let her contact me for the next outing?? She told me it was fun but what a woman says and does are totally different (plus not wanting to be needy factor).
Since I initiated the first 2 dates? Let's hear it fellas how would you approach it?
 
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