"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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tryin 2 play

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Whats up guys. This is a long post, just so ya know. This is an update on a thread i did before the shutdown. It was called chick from class...some of you might remember it. Anyway we have gone out a few times.

Date 1: Went to dinner. Went well w/ some good convo. She wanted to pay but I said no and payed it myself. Took her bowling...we got up to the counter and she practically threw the money at the girl to pay, so cool i guess. She then wanted to see how to get to my house...i showed her then dropped her off.

Date 2: walking out of class with her. I get a call saying that what i was supposed to do got cancelled. She ask if i wud go to lunch with her since my plans fell through. I agreed. We went and that was gonna be it, but then she asked if we cud chill for a while after so we did. Not too long tho. I kissed her and we ended up making out the whole time we were together.

Date 3: Took her ice skating in the city. This was a lot of fun, we had a great time. Back to my house, hung out, kissing, played around with the t!tties, but she didn't want to go further. Thats cool, and i figured that would happen cuz she is really the good girl type which i dig haha.

I am trying to take this slow with her. She just broke up with her ltr about a month ago, so i want to give her space. I said I would rather not get involved if there is still stuff goin on with her ex, and she made it very clear that she has been over him for months before they broke up, and that this is not some kind of rebound. I believe her she seems honest, but we'll see. She actually got really upset when i said this to her. She calls a lot and texts me. Constantly saying i realy like being with you a lot and always think of you etc... Very high IL. She thinks i am not that interested. Should I start showing more interest in her? I do like her but am just tryin to keep it cool. She says she wants to get exsclusive, but not rush in to it. I said we will see what happens. I think i have played everything right so far, as she calls more than i call her, and i am always busy.

So do you think i should show some more interest in her, as I think i would eventually like to get exsclusive with her also, and she is constantly showing her high IL. One more question that is gonna come from left field lol. My friend asked me if she has slept w/ many guys. My guess is no, just her ex, cuz she really isnt that type. This got me wondering tho, and i dont know if it hsould matter to me. But do you guys usually talk about that **** with girls? Or is it better to leave it in the past. We have only been seein each other for 2 weeks, so i wouldnt ask now, i think it is too soon and she is pretty conservative and shy.

Thanks for readin and replying!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So do you think i should show some more interest in her, as I think i would eventually like to get exsclusive with her also, and she is constantly showing her high IL.
You've been on three dates with her. Give things a couple of months before you become exclusive. Women can still flake after three dates.

It also depends on what you mean by "showing more interest". If you're thinking about buying her gifts like flowers and jewelry, forget it. Show you interest with your body language and kino. Just keep doing what you're doing, because it's working!
 

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ya no way was i gonna buy her anything. I just meant call her more often or something. I told her i am very busy thats why i dont call much, because she asked why i didnt.
 

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One thing I've always done is kept conversation off the telephone and saved it for dates. It keeps the dates more interesting and you'll usually have something to talk about. If you want to date her a little more, go for it!
 

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Why the **** would you want to call her more often? To know what she did? To know the latest gossip? Come on! To share some nail polish secrets?

she wants to get exsclusive, but not rush in to it
:rolleyes:

Now, I'm guessing you are young, not above 30. You're just looking to get exclusive for the kicks of it, not looking for a ltr. She's wanting to trade sex for relationship.

Your boat is going just fine, why row differently?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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urgent help plz - lady making me crazy

Dear all


Few months ago I moved to new area, I mat a girl in my way out and she was my neighbour, got her phone number. She is 24 and im 27. Been chatting and talking romance on the phone daily bases we even had phone sex. We went for coffee once only and since then we didn’t see each other again.
The problem im facing is that, everytime I ask to meet her she keep saying I got to study today, I got to see my friends maybe tomorrow and so on.

I like the girl very much and she likes me too, but I don’t . what should I do about it? Its making me crzy

Please help

Regards

Sam
 
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