Date...advice urgently needed.

[DoItAgain]

First, I have a date off POF on Wednesday, but the catch is that I'd already messaged this girl two weeks ago practically begging her for sex when I was hypersexual. I made a new profile yesterday and used a full body shot pic of me.

My point being, there's a good chance she'll see me IRL and be onto the fact that I'm the same guy.

I'm just trying to bed this woman anyway...go on a few dates/hang outs, tell her what she wants to hear, have sex, then say I'm not ready for a relationship...but how do I make sure she isn't suspicious?

The only thing I can think of is tell her next time I talk to her that people have been stealing my pics and making troll profiles...because honestly...the things I was saying to her when I was hypersexual, would be hard to believe.

 

[Scars]

First off, why are you ashamed of your "hyper"-sexuality? This is not the quality of a man nor a DJ. We as men are raging with hormones, we do want sex, we are human, we ARE biologically programmed to be this way. There is no shame in that. It's possible that you may had come off a little creeperish, but if you are playing all your other cards right it shouldn't be an issue. I would say run with it. If she doesn't want to see you because you are a MAN, then it's her loss.

For next time though. Try being covert about your feelings next time. Woman are also very sexual, and love sexy talk, but they do it a lot differently then men. They do it in metaphors, and often beat around the bush. The context of how you say things, and the look in your eyes differentiates the innocent words coming out of your mouth from the dark little innuendos you really mean to say.

 

[DoItAgain]

I was being desperate...it went beyond flirting...practically begging her to take my virginity.

Anyway, I just sent her a 10 second clip of me walking around. If she doesn't like it/figures out it's me...oh well...but this will tell whether I should bother with the date or not.

 

[DoItAgain]

I should be all set...I sent her a 10 second video clip of me over text and she liked it and didn't suspect anything. Maybe being THAT desperate a couple weeks ago was so hard to believe, that she dismissed it as some troll and not actually the desperate guy I was at the moment.

The next question is, how do I maintain my gameplan while talking to her? I want to keep personal info at a minimum...but you have to divulge some things, you know?

Also, the relationship question, if that comes up, which it's bound to, how do I answer that without lying about wanting a relationship but not making it seem like I just want a$$ either?

 

[Scars]

To be honest, I would lie to her about being a virgin. I would say two. One with a LTR girlfriend (which shows your sensitive side) and the other was a ONS say at a bar or something which also shows you aren't afraid to get down. But not unless she asks you about it point blank. If you walk and talk with a swagger she is just going to assume you aren't a virgin. I would avoid the conversation until she brings it up point blank. Also, you shouldn't be talking about past relationships too much anyway. Sometimes it's a mood killer. If you aren't talking about past girls, then you have an aura of mystery that surrounds you. Which she will later want to dive into.

As far as the relationship/piece of ass. I think you are putting way too much thought into it. Go on this date with the mindset of having a good time. Read past field reports and learn the signs. Girls will give subtle hints about certain things. If at any moment you ever feel like you can bang this girl, then you probably can. The reason I was stressing the whole no shame in sexuality thing is because you need to keep pushing if you want to lose your v-card. You have to be constantly making the moves, and you have to make sure the touching, and everything keeps escalating. Learn to identify the differences between a **** test "no" and an actual no. I think I remember briefly talking about this in your last thread. Sometimes girls will put up barriers to protect themselves from looking like a slut. Also another important key, do not make her ever feel slutty. Even if she says something outrageous, that you completely disagree with, make her feel comfortable. If a girl tells me she likes to go to bars every weekend, or has more guy friends then girls friends then that to me is a huge red flag screaming SLVT! Of course I would never say this to her face, I would just agree with her and remind her the importance of having a life, freedom, going out and having fun etc.. Try to not to be so judgmental as well.

So in a nutshell. Stay sexual, keep escalating.. make her feel comfortable, be confident, remain in control of the frame, and if the opportunity arises.. seize it. You'll be losing that v-car in no time buddy.

-Scars

 

[DoItAgain]

Uh oh...I remember having the current pic of me up on the old profile too...any chance she's been onto me the whole time and is just going to be a no-show or something?

 

[DoItAgain]

I'm not going through with it anyway.

As much as I want to believe I'm some player type of guy, I'm not. I don't have it in me to lie or manipulate. I'm just sexually frustrated and have an over-active imagination.

More likely what would/is going to happen whenever I lose the V-card is I'll get attached. All it takes is a girl I think is even relatively pretty to be nice to me and I'm hooked, even if she's not my dating type. Imagine what will happen when I stick my c**k in a nice, wet p***y and we exchange some nice words after sex.

That's part of the reason I wasn't worried about the V card for so long...I figured I'd get attached and it would bring bigger problems.

I got attached to my ex...who I did "Everything else" with and hounded her to death and only recently stopped forgetting about her (after a year of not seeing her.) Granted, I genuinely liked her...her looks and personality...but still, I got attached, and that kind of drama is the last thing I need.

 

[Scars]

With this philosophy you are never going to lose your v-card my friend. You have deeper problems you really need to sort out. Any advice I've given you you seem to ignore. Seems like you really need to work on inner game and the core of your personality. I was basically trying to give you the formula to "fake it until you make it" but you can't even do that. You seem to have social or anxiety issues, there are deeper underlying problems here. I don't want to say you are beyond help, because you aren't. But you wont get anywhere without first taking those baby steps.

 

[DoItAgain]

My problem is simple...I'm not good at being someone I'm not. I'm at my best when I'm genuine (not to be mistaken for "nice" or a pushover) and just being myself and being appreciated for myself. Unfortunately, in HB land, being yourself (even though I'm not some loser...I'm decent looking, good posture, and well dressed) means nothing.

I don't have a social personality in general. The guys that get laid are basically social people, and talk to women because it comes naturally to them.

Even the guys who it didn't come easy to...they had it deep down in them.

I'm the kind of guy that will tell a girl if I think her friend is annoying, or talk about the 1-10 scale in front of a woman. This is my personality in general. I speak my mind.

 

[DoItAgain]

Well I decided, I'm meeting her. She seems interested or she's a very good actor, one or the other. And she's a 6ish, so I don't see why she would have any reason to be some AW.

I let her know that I'm not looking for serious right off the bat and that I'm looking for fun. So if we fool around and she gets attached, I never promised commitment.

 

[DoItAgain]

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[DoItAgain]

Well she's been texting me like crazy and she called me...the problem is, it sounds like she's one of those slow-moving, I only have sex in a relationship type of women. And as much as I want to lose the V-card 1.)I don't want to lie about intentions to get what I want, 2.)I don't want to enter an LTR with some 6, have sex with her, and hurt her feelings after I break the news that I don't want to be with her.

So how do I seduce her without outright lying?