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Making this as short as possible because I don't like reading long posts either ... (questions at least)

School dance tomorrow, before party at a friend's house, and the girl I'm taking is meeting me there. I don't have to be home for a few hours after the dance ends, so how would I go about suggesting that I come over her house? She seems inexperienced sexually, but is extremely outgoing (asked me to dance)

Obviously if I get her alone I know I can escalate fine, it's just iso is hard for me.

I just don't want to have her parents make a big deal and not let me in or something like that .. because I've never met them, so I'm not sure.

Help?
 

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Ok man, this is tougher than you think. I'm assuming you are both 17ish, and no parent wants some boy taking advantage of their little princess. I mean, you may be able to get back to her place, but how would you get her alone if her parents are still there and awake. Assume they are going to be. I doubt you will have opportunity to get her alone. However, if strictly gettin to her house is the quest, here's what you do. Before the dance, ask her what her plans are for afterward, if she' knows of any parties, good resturants, ice cream, coffee, whatever. If she comes up with something, go there after the dance. Make it kinda short-lived, and as you're leaving say you aren't tired, don't feel like going home, yaddah yadah, where can we go? Tell her there's a dvd that just came out you want to watch but can't go to your house because blah blah blah...By this time she will be cool enough with you to decide whether or not she wants you over, and if her parents would be cool with it. if she doesn't suggest her place, you know it's because it wasn't possible. If you don't go to her house, find some bs view or make out spot and see of she's up for that, otherwise.......your sol.
 
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Well I got back in at 10 pm tonight, called her (had two missed from her) and we talked for about an hour (too long, prolly a mistake) but the whole time was great, we really click

She started off with "what are the plans tomorrow?"..

Well we're going to a before party, then dance, then I said "and after?"

She told me she has work at 7:45 the next morning, figured it was a valid reason, so I dropped us doing anything afterward. I don't think "friends" go to this type of thing together, so I can't see myself being friend zoned. Plus, we haven't hung out alone yet, so when we do I know I'll make a move.

Advice much appreciated :eek:
 
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well, you can still try and make some sort of move after the dance, just maybe a little make out session or something to set you up fo rthe next time.
 

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WARNING - LONG

Well, I almost screwed up REALLY bad, but I managed to turn it into a small mistake. Here's the rundown, and any advice is much appreciated, because I'm confused on where to go next.

We go to the before party, everyone is "omg'ing" all over the place. Must be a girl thing ... We chill in the basement and meet other people from school till about 7 when we leave for the dance.

Now, I've NEVER danced before. I've gotten with girls and ****, but I've never actually had to dance. Needless to say I didn't go crazy at first, but I picked it up pretty quick. Eventually some song comes on (dunno names) and it's like "blah blah blah let's go."

So I look over at here and I'm like "let's go." We start grinding, and I got hard. I don't know if this was my imagination or not, but I swear she was pushing against me after that. Whatever. We dance almost the whole time till it ends at like 10:30 or whatever it was.

So we went to an after party for a few minutes because she had to be home before whatever time since her license isn't legit. Her mom invited me back to their house, which I teased her and said that was her job. Told her she wasn't getting any anyway. All that blah blah.


IMPORTANT PART:

So we're at her house on the floor lying down and I tell her to come closer. She's said something to the effect of being too tired to move, but I could come closer if I wanted. I didn't. (p*ssy move #1)

I forget the setup to this, but it was f*cking pefect; the look at her face was priceless. I think I negged her and said something, then she's like blah blah blah and kinda looked off in the distance and said "you wouldn't do anything anyway ..." Looked back at her, ahh man, priceless look. (didn't do anything at that point, p*ssy move #2)

So her parents walk in, I figured that was the end of my chances. My ride gets here, so I go to leave and she follows me. She goes for the hug. I tell her rip off. I go for the kiss .. we make out for 10 sec or less and then I leave. Nothing has changed between us (saw her Monday) .. meaning she isn't weird about it. I feel like if I don't tell her we're hanging out over Christmas break (on it now) she will think I'm uninterested, but if I do, I might seem desperate. Help? :eek:

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Major freakin AFC day on Monday, I knew it too. Can't be bothered explaining, but I should have left. I remember reading I shouldn't be around her when she's feeling like **** or something.

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TL;DR - we made out at her house for a little, now we're on Christmas break. I want to hang out because if I don't she might think I'm uninterested, but if I did, I might seem desperate. Help? :eek:
 
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