"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Damn be this girl is one tough cookie

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This is a conversation on MSN - i thinks tighter game than most people drop on sosuave - nevertheless this conversation is in the context of troubleshooting - this is a girl that i showed too much value and didnt really qualify properly or obtaiin comfort. Right now im learning a lot of TD stuff - and i feel that in the convo u see her lockup several times - prob cause im reaching buying temperature too quickly. In my personal opinion i should let her know more about me so she can build comfort -
What do u guys think?

bigworm3886: isnt pass ur bedtime ?
LiL L 2686: no way jose

LiL L 2686: i usually sleep late and go to bed late
LiL L 2686: but i am doing homework
LiL L 2686: whats your story?
bigworm3886: hahahah - dreaming of a day i will never have to do homework again
bigworm3886: and live a flossin life
LiL L 2686: hahahahaaa
bigworm3886: but you know wat ive thinking of lately
bigworm3886: with your swagger and my style we couold make all of BU jealous
LiL L 2686: lol no
LiL L 2686: i dont have a swagger
LiL L 2686: lol
bigworm3886: hmmmm i dont maybe i cant pregame with u anymore -
LiL L 2686: oh nooo
LiL L 2686: i need my gandmellon tho
bigworm3886: is that u want me for
bigworm3886: is that all u want me for
LiL L 2686: yup
LiL L 2686: im just kidddiing
bigworm3886: hhahahahaha
bigworm3886: i dont know if ur kidding though - hmmmm
bigworm3886: ur so funny thou
LiL L 2686: haha i was kidding
LiL L 2686: i want to but he'll know
LiL L 2686: wrong im
bigworm3886: hmm secrets?
LiL L 2686: lol yea
LiL L 2686: no i meant to im my friend
LiL L 2686: i hate this new aim
bigworm3886: its ok - as i was saying maybe i can teach u how to be like me
LiL L 2686: im not used to switching back anf forth yet
LiL L 2686: oh yea... llike how? conceided?
bigworm3886: but not too much like me that'll be weird
LiL L 2686: haa
bigworm3886: we would both get too cool for each other
bigworm3886: r u mostly a teacher or a student ?
LiL L 2686: i would say teacher
LiL L 2686: i dont like when people try to teach me things like i dont already know
LiL L 2686: student or teacher?
bigworm3886: hmmmm - im mostly a teacher as well but i wouldnt mind learning new things
bigworm3886: although to be honest - and u already know this - i already know a lot
bigworm3886: but i would love to learn from u
LiL L 2686: haha im sure
bigworm3886: so if u gave a urself a grade - wat would u give ur kisses
LiL L 2686: why are you asking me these provocative questions?
bigworm3886: ohhh u love these questions dont lie
LiL L 2686: i can't answer these questions
bigworm3886: hmmm i guess i wont talk about how interesting you are
LiL L 2686: i'm an interesting person but i just dont think its right for you to be asking me these questions
bigworm3886: yep thats fine - well i have to go sleep - but ill ttyl
LiL L 2686: ok
LiL L 2686: goodnight
bigworm3886: u too
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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nonchalant

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get off AIM and go out and sarge
 

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thanks nonchalant for the most worthless tip ever
in college u use the AIM + phone combo to mack chicks
anyway any suggestions
 

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sorry - whenever i see you guys post aim convos it reads like you are in grade school or something
 

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I concur with nonchalant. I love these guys who post thier AIM/Yahoo/Match.com/EHarmony bullsh!t convos. All you've proven is what a great KBJ you are.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm currently forming a committee to discuss killing all those young naive bastards who try to "game "chicks" on IM - do it in person or for 10 minutes on the phone - IM's have ZERO effectiveness - actually it hurts you - the man!!!!

Only IM if you are a shy person - it gives you time to think without pressure!
 

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Bigworm said:
thanks nonchalant for the most worthless tip ever
in college u use the AIM + phone combo to mack chicks
anyway any suggestions
No, it's not a useless tip, it's simple but not useless.

I've never heard too many people on this site say that IM is a good way to game chicks in college, if they say that, just how successful are they?

Cause Nonchalant was right, you sound like your 12.
 

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i will agree with the people above in some respects. But if talking online sucked so much than can you explain to me how people in online dating sites get each other to commit to meeting one another being that they have never met before. But yeah i will try to use phone game more even ifs gonna be a lil harder.
just for all intensive purposes can anyone look over my convo -
 

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If I'm not willing to chat with a girl over the internet, why in the hell would I read a log of YOU chatting with a girl over the internet?

Get her number and invite her on a date.
 

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Bigworm said:
i will agree with the people above in some respects. But if talking online sucked so much than can you explain to me how people in online dating sites get each other to commit to meeting one another being that they have never met before. But yeah i will try to use phone game more even ifs gonna be a lil harder.
just for all intensive purposes can anyone look over my convo -
Your point is valid. However, you did nothing in that convo to progress towards getting her number and meeting her in person. When you ended the conversation, you were in the exact same position you were before the conversation (actually, that may not be true, because you could have actually lowered her interest with this chat).
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Bigworm said:
LiL L 2686: i want to but he'll know
LiL L 2686: wrong im
bigworm3886: hmm secrets?
LiL L 2686: lol yea
LiL L 2686: no i meant to im my friend
LiL L 2686: i hate this new aim
bigworm3886: its ok - as i was saying maybe i can teach u how to be like me
LiL L 2686: im not used to switching back anf forth yet
My guess is that the other IM was one of her gfs saying 'just block him.'
 

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thanks for the tip nighthawk
im just gonna move on then
 

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Hmm... unlike some other people here im gonna try and give some decent non-judgmental feedback.

Ok... just using ur logic u can problably figure out for yourself that IM is at the bottom of the chain. U have some tools like kino and body languages when IRL and u have even less of those tools when ur trying to mack on a girl on the phone... now imagine how crap IM is as a macking tool.

Me personally thou im using IM just to raise their interest by talking to them once or maybe twice to get their interest going. But then i have to move up... if i cant at the very least get their number by the second IM convo im discarding that girl as a failed attempt...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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From personal experience, txt over the phone works ok AFTER you have already met an HB and gotten to know her a little bit (I've read an account where a dude was just getting voicemail so he txt'd her and got a phone call immediately).

As far as IM goes, if you already know the girl from a previous approach (in PERSON) for you to exchange SNs then MAYBE you have a chance. Otherwise from what I see from your AIM, your internet game is no bueno. :down:
 
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