I was physically attracted to her from the very first day, but lately it's becoming a little more. She shows a lot of interest, yet she keeps mentioning her boyfriend. I'm thinking that she's doing this to let me know not to waste my time trying to hook up with her, but at the same time I feel like she really wants me and the only thing that's stopping her is, because she doesn't want to ruin a good relationship with her boyfriend. The thing is, she knows that I have a girlfriend in another state. I don't know, I really need help on this one from people who have a lot of experience on this kind of situation.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Damn, attracted to a girl with a boyfriend!!!
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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That boyfriend mentioning crap is just to alleviate her guilt.
Anti Slvt Defense or ASD as its more commonly known around these parts.
She wants your c0ck in her mouth in the worst way.
Just keep at her if this is the type of person you are but remember she will cheat on you like she will cheat on him.
Protect your heart and just consider this a fun fling and you should come out of this alright.
Anti Slvt Defense or ASD as its more commonly known around these parts.
She wants your c0ck in her mouth in the worst way.
Just keep at her if this is the type of person you are but remember she will cheat on you like she will cheat on him.
Protect your heart and just consider this a fun fling and you should come out of this alright.
Most women have boyfriends. They're freaks if they single. She just wants you to steal her from her boyfriend. Proceed.
They'd be talking about their boyfriends or husbands, because it hurts your balls if you listen to that. She'd teeth you, then hurt your balls, and watch you be a wuss. As if getting pleasure from that.
Idea is not to talk about her boyfriend. Escalate with her, give her that special kind of attention. When she begins talking about him, tell her, ok, you're loosing me, or tell her straight up, I'm not interested in you talking about your man, and if you want to talk about him, you can find yourself other guy to talk to. Then you follow up on that, stop the attention, and even remove yourself from her.
Usually she'd pull you right back and let you continue seducing her. If she does not, she's not attracted to you.
Once you get that out of the way, proceed as normal.
They'd be talking about their boyfriends or husbands, because it hurts your balls if you listen to that. She'd teeth you, then hurt your balls, and watch you be a wuss. As if getting pleasure from that.
Idea is not to talk about her boyfriend. Escalate with her, give her that special kind of attention. When she begins talking about him, tell her, ok, you're loosing me, or tell her straight up, I'm not interested in you talking about your man, and if you want to talk about him, you can find yourself other guy to talk to. Then you follow up on that, stop the attention, and even remove yourself from her.
Usually she'd pull you right back and let you continue seducing her. If she does not, she's not attracted to you.
Once you get that out of the way, proceed as normal.
Randallpink83
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well said Stuntmann... Well said!!!
...It mostly depends on the circumstances... HER circumstances, whether or not you have a chance. She's the one that is taken. She has to choose if she wants more.... But by all means, try... She aint going to choose if she has nothing to go off of...
...It mostly depends on the circumstances... HER circumstances, whether or not you have a chance. She's the one that is taken. She has to choose if she wants more.... But by all means, try... She aint going to choose if she has nothing to go off of...
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Yes. I think of it all like so, all women have a man, they are not stuck up on him because let's face it, how common is it for a girl to have IL of above 90%? They are constantly looking for something more exciting in their lives, thus when they are attracted to a new guy, and if she views him as hot enough, she will not mention her boyfriend or she will but not after you put her into place.
You can pretty much escalate with that girl, Sam. You should from the first time you see her, but if you haven't so far, go for it.
I'd say that girl has low IL in her man. Not even worth to mention him, or compare him to you.
You can pretty much escalate with that girl, Sam. You should from the first time you see her, but if you haven't so far, go for it.
I'd say that girl has low IL in her man. Not even worth to mention him, or compare him to you.
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Another thing you could do is listen to her talk about or get her to talk about her boyfriend a little bit and find some emotional area he may not be satisfying her in.
Then fill that hole in her life to be able to fill the hole you really wish to fill.
Then fill that hole in her life to be able to fill the hole you really wish to fill.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
YoungSir4sho
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Lol U Kno Its Funny. Every1 Is Tryin To Get A Girl When They Have A Man??? I Mean Yea I've Done Dat Also But It Doesnt Feel Right Doin That All Of The Time.
Jus Kno That If U Eva Find The Right One, Best Believe Some1 Else Is Spittin Game To Ur Girl N Even If Ur Girl Keeps Sayin She Is Wit U She Will Cheat. Wat Goes Aroun Comes Aroun
Its Jus Betta To Get Wit A Girl Dat Says She Is Single. Dat Way Even If She's Not U Wont Care Cuz U Neva Knew Bout It. Holla Early
Jus Kno That If U Eva Find The Right One, Best Believe Some1 Else Is Spittin Game To Ur Girl N Even If Ur Girl Keeps Sayin She Is Wit U She Will Cheat. Wat Goes Aroun Comes Aroun
Its Jus Betta To Get Wit A Girl Dat Says She Is Single. Dat Way Even If She's Not U Wont Care Cuz U Neva Knew Bout It. Holla Early
I don't know if you've ever really found the right one, but I think I do and the way I see it I don't think she'll ever cheat and I mean never. This girl I'm talking about right now is the same thing I feel. If she cheats on her boyfriend for me I will holla back at you and I would f*ck every single girl out there and may not even consider getting married cuz that would be damn pointless.
YoungSir4sho
Senior Don Juan
Man All Girls Say They Dont Cheat, N Wat Happens?? All Of A Sudden They Made A Mistake N Cheated. Its All Bout Da Mood N How They Feel Durin That Time.
Go Fo It N See If She Will Cheat Fo U, But Best Believe That If That Happens She Will Cheat On U Too
Go Fo It N See If She Will Cheat Fo U, But Best Believe That If That Happens She Will Cheat On U Too
I work with a girl, and she knows I like her, and you know how many times she has mentioned her bf? ZERO, ZILCH, NONE. She's never even spoke his name, though I know what it is.
I never hear a word at work. Lets call him J. J and I went out last night, or J and I are going to go to the fair, or J and I are going shopping.
I've not once had her mention to me she does anything with him.
I almost think he doesn't exist. Though he does it just doesn't seem that way.
To me this shows me that she really isn't happy. And in fact i've been told that by her before. She kind of just keeps dating him, and tried to break it off before. She is young, but she has that whole idea of.... I have someone so it must be all good.
What I do is try to prove to her there are better guys out there. Hows this for sad. She had a b-day months ago, and the dirt bag didnt even take her to dinner, nor did he go out to eat with her and her family. Quite honestly, she was upset. Thing is, she knows i'll take her out tomorrow, and i'm not even dating her. Am I going to step on his turf? You bet I am. I see a woman who isn't as happy as she could be, and I know I could make her happy. Not to mention since I know her, it ticks me off she gets treated that way when she deserves better. I deserve her, and he doesn't, plain and simple.
She starts looking at stuff like that, trust me. Now whether it will end up being me over him, who knows. I used to like her before she had a bf, but she wasn't quite 18 and it just wasn't good timing. Now she is, and then some, but now she has a bf.
So what I say. When you know she isn't happy, I say its fine. She wants a reason to break up with him, so we have to give them one.
Now if it is a woman who brags all the time, I dont mess with those. You know she really likes the guy, so move on. The only time I have done this is once, cause I knew the girl for a few years.
I never hear a word at work. Lets call him J. J and I went out last night, or J and I are going to go to the fair, or J and I are going shopping.
I've not once had her mention to me she does anything with him.
I almost think he doesn't exist. Though he does it just doesn't seem that way.
To me this shows me that she really isn't happy. And in fact i've been told that by her before. She kind of just keeps dating him, and tried to break it off before. She is young, but she has that whole idea of.... I have someone so it must be all good.
What I do is try to prove to her there are better guys out there. Hows this for sad. She had a b-day months ago, and the dirt bag didnt even take her to dinner, nor did he go out to eat with her and her family. Quite honestly, she was upset. Thing is, she knows i'll take her out tomorrow, and i'm not even dating her. Am I going to step on his turf? You bet I am. I see a woman who isn't as happy as she could be, and I know I could make her happy. Not to mention since I know her, it ticks me off she gets treated that way when she deserves better. I deserve her, and he doesn't, plain and simple.
She starts looking at stuff like that, trust me. Now whether it will end up being me over him, who knows. I used to like her before she had a bf, but she wasn't quite 18 and it just wasn't good timing. Now she is, and then some, but now she has a bf.
So what I say. When you know she isn't happy, I say its fine. She wants a reason to break up with him, so we have to give them one.
Now if it is a woman who brags all the time, I dont mess with those. You know she really likes the guy, so move on. The only time I have done this is once, cause I knew the girl for a few years.
Im talking to a girl right now that has a boyfriend. She says shes in love with him, and thats what makes it so hard to leave him, even though he is a fu(king prick, broke up with her for 2 weeks while he saw someone else, kicked her out of his house and she got an apartment, but she keeps hope alive that he will come around and things will work out. Ive known her for about 4 years and there has always been an attraction/tension between us, but we havent been single at the same time, but for about a week and this was about a month ago. We hung out almost every night that week. Went riding on my bike, went out to a club and had drinks and danced, went to dinner, etc. We had a lot of fun. Now her boyfriend, who i think is pretty damn ugly (but shes in love 
), is boring as hell. He doesnt take her out, they are usually at home in bed by 10:30. She even told me one day that he wouldnt even face her in bed (when she lived with him) and that their sex life sucked. Hmmm.
One night at dinner (we were out with a bunch of friends), she started texting me, while sitting right next to me. She wanted to know how many girls I have been with. I told her the truth (6). She freaked, and didnt believe me cause she thought i was some sort of man *****, and figured it would be 20+. She wouldnt tell me how many she was with and few minutes later went to the bathroom. While in there she texted me asking how many I felt was the border line for "too many" for a potential partner. I knew how many she had been with because one of my best friends girlfriends is her younger sister, and he told me. So I told her 2 more than what she had been with. By this time she was back and was like "ok, then i guess i can mess around a little then" and stuff like that. Literally sizing me up, but making it obvious that she sees me as potentially being another number for her. (Good to know im not in the friend zone, and wont let myself go there).
So now shes back with ugly guy, and i havent talked to her much. Id like to swoop in and steal her away, but amidst the way he treats her, and the fact that she knows there is some sort of attraction between us, and that she has a lot more fun with me than him, she still wont leave him, and definitely wont do anything intimate. Which I think is really good because that lets me know that she wont cheat on me if we were to hook up, but on the other hand makes it difficult not to try and coax her away and whatnot. Ive literally just disappeared and doing my own thing now.
He'll mess up sometime in the future. Now that she has her own place, theyll drift apart. And i might be there to swoop in for the kill. But maybe not.
), is boring as hell. He doesnt take her out, they are usually at home in bed by 10:30. She even told me one day that he wouldnt even face her in bed (when she lived with him) and that their sex life sucked. Hmmm. One night at dinner (we were out with a bunch of friends), she started texting me, while sitting right next to me. She wanted to know how many girls I have been with. I told her the truth (6). She freaked, and didnt believe me cause she thought i was some sort of man *****, and figured it would be 20+. She wouldnt tell me how many she was with and few minutes later went to the bathroom. While in there she texted me asking how many I felt was the border line for "too many" for a potential partner. I knew how many she had been with because one of my best friends girlfriends is her younger sister, and he told me. So I told her 2 more than what she had been with. By this time she was back and was like "ok, then i guess i can mess around a little then" and stuff like that. Literally sizing me up, but making it obvious that she sees me as potentially being another number for her. (Good to know im not in the friend zone, and wont let myself go there).
So now shes back with ugly guy, and i havent talked to her much. Id like to swoop in and steal her away, but amidst the way he treats her, and the fact that she knows there is some sort of attraction between us, and that she has a lot more fun with me than him, she still wont leave him, and definitely wont do anything intimate. Which I think is really good because that lets me know that she wont cheat on me if we were to hook up, but on the other hand makes it difficult not to try and coax her away and whatnot. Ive literally just disappeared and doing my own thing now.
He'll mess up sometime in the future. Now that she has her own place, theyll drift apart. And i might be there to swoop in for the kill. But maybe not.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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"So now shes back with ugly guy, and i havent talked to her much. Id like to swoop in and steal her away, but amidst the way he treats her, and the fact that she knows there is some sort of attraction between us, and that she has a lot more fun with me than him, she still wont leave him, and definitely wont do anything intimate. Which I think is really good because that lets me know that she wont cheat on me if we were to hook up, but on the other hand makes it difficult not to try and coax her away and whatnot. Ive literally just disappeared and doing my own thing now.
He'll mess up sometime in the future. Now that she has her own place, theyll drift apart. And i might be there to swoop in for the kill. But maybe not."
The only way he'll mess up is to start to treat her good.
She's the type that likes to be treated like dirt or else she'd be with you right now.
Update us if she proves me wrong bro.
Good luck to you.
"Which I think is really good because that lets me know that she wont cheat on me if we were to hook up"
Here's what will happen.
If she cheats on him with you she's a cheater and once a cheater always a cheater and also eventually she'll get tired of you treating her well and begin to believe she deserves to be treated like garbage again so she'll go back to that other guy in a vicious cycle going back and forth between you two.
Sure you want this?
He'll mess up sometime in the future. Now that she has her own place, theyll drift apart. And i might be there to swoop in for the kill. But maybe not."
The only way he'll mess up is to start to treat her good.
She's the type that likes to be treated like dirt or else she'd be with you right now.
Update us if she proves me wrong bro.
Good luck to you.
"Which I think is really good because that lets me know that she wont cheat on me if we were to hook up"
Here's what will happen.
If she cheats on him with you she's a cheater and once a cheater always a cheater and also eventually she'll get tired of you treating her well and begin to believe she deserves to be treated like garbage again so she'll go back to that other guy in a vicious cycle going back and forth between you two.
Sure you want this?
I figured this out. No girls would want to be treated as dirt. Those who are getting treated as such and keeps coming back for more are HOOKED with the guy aka oneitis if I can say. Those type of girls either think they won't be able to find someone better or they think no one else but that jerk is going to ever love them cuz at one point the jerk did really love the girl, but now is either getting bored or just found someone else better which happens a lot.KontrollerX said:
You don't have to be be Mr. Nice Guy. You gotta keep everything exciting that's all. Keep em on their toes. Be the guy that she'll regret cheating on!~
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Actually thats only part of the picture vagrant.
There are chicks who actually think so low of themselves they believe they are only worth being treated badly which is why they stick with a guy that treats them badly.
The only guy that can win one of these chicks away from that kind of guy is another kind of guy like that who will treat them even worse.
There are chicks who actually think so low of themselves they believe they are only worth being treated badly which is why they stick with a guy that treats them badly.
The only guy that can win one of these chicks away from that kind of guy is another kind of guy like that who will treat them even worse.
Pretty interesting story. I guess I'm gonna have to wait and see cuz right now the boyfriend's in the navy and she got this little new song on myspace that indicates that she isn't happy. I'm all set though. I'm only touching her if she's single!~jamescr73 said:Im talking to a girl right now that has a boyfriend. She says shes in love with him, and thats what makes it so hard to leave him, even though he is a fu(king prick, broke up with her for 2 weeks while he saw someone else, kicked her out of his house and she got an apartment, but she keeps hope alive that he will come around and things will work out. Ive known her for about 4 years and there has always been an attraction/tension between us, but we havent been single at the same time, but for about a week and this was about a month ago. We hung out almost every night that week. Went riding on my bike, went out to a club and had drinks and danced, went to dinner, etc. We had a lot of fun. Now her boyfriend, who i think is pretty damn ugly (but shes in love
One night at dinner (we were out with a bunch of friends), she started texting me, while sitting right next to me. She wanted to know how many girls I have been with. I told her the truth (6). She freaked, and didnt believe me cause she thought i was some sort of man *****, and figured it would be 20+. She wouldnt tell me how many she was with and few minutes later went to the bathroom. While in there she texted me asking how many I felt was the border line for "too many" for a potential partner. I knew how many she had been with because one of my best friends girlfriends is her younger sister, and he told me. So I told her 2 more than what she had been with. By this time she was back and was like "ok, then i guess i can mess around a little then" and stuff like that. Literally sizing me up, but making it obvious that she sees me as potentially being another number for her. (Good to know im not in the friend zone, and wont let myself go there).
So now shes back with ugly guy, and i havent talked to her much. Id like to swoop in and steal her away, but amidst the way he treats her, and the fact that she knows there is some sort of attraction between us, and that she has a lot more fun with me than him, she still wont leave him, and definitely wont do anything intimate. Which I think is really good because that lets me know that she wont cheat on me if we were to hook up, but on the other hand makes it difficult not to try and coax her away and whatnot. Ive literally just disappeared and doing my own thing now.
He'll mess up sometime in the future. Now that she has her own place, theyll drift apart. And i might be there to swoop in for the kill. But maybe not.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.