"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Damaged Goods

pdx1138

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I went through this from 2009-2011

What a roller coaster. It affected me physically too, I remember feeling very sick and even took a day off of work once.

It was a great life lesson if nothing else. Painful yes...but very valuable.

I went from clueless AFC to "on guard and watch your back" ever since.

In the middle of that time, when I figured out what her play was, I began caring less and decided to bang her as many times as I could, then move on and thats what I did.

Truth be told, the sex was some of the best I've had.

This forum gave me the knowledge I needed to make it through. What I read about on this forum is exactly what she did to the point she became 100% predictable, that was kinda fun to witness.

If I had a chance to go back and do it differently I wouldn't change a thing.
On the other hand, I won't allow myself to get into a situation like that again.
Once was plenty.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A ONS is as far as I go if the damaged goods traits are visible enough.
 

metoo

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why would you even say hello to one that was obvioiusly damaged?
 

pdx1138

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well, you need to talk to them to figure out if they are damaged.

but ya, if I noticed they were damaged from someone who knew them, I'd steer clear (and have)
 
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