Cyberbullying and 'sexual assault'

[LiveFreeX]

http://news.yahoo.com/2-charged-deadly-canada-cyberbullying-case-053506130.html

So 2, 18 y/o guys fvck this 17 y/o girl. Then they post the pics on facebook. She gets depressed and kills herself. The police do a yearlong investigation and conclude that there is no evidence to charge these two young men with an 'assault'. Political Pressure then causes this investigation to be reopened and now the two men are facing jail for 'child pornography'.

They were within a year of each other's age and because she was an insane slut who decided to fvck two 'bad boy' types, these guys face jail... women are totally absolved of any responsibility or decency and are ALWAYS the victims.

I remember back in hs this complete slvt named debbie fvcked 4 guys at once and they took pics and showed the football team. She earned the nickname slvt queen and eventually changed schools because of it. Today those same 4 guys would likely be facing jail terms... and she would be nicknamed 'helpless sexual assault victim'.

Women have no responsibility to anyone in North America and anyone who touches a North American woman is simply asking for trouble. Women are allowed to slvt it up with whomever they please and when they feel guilty or pressured in any way they can go to an enforcer and claim rape. Because of her instability and sh1tty upbringing, these men will face jail terms and societal neglect for the rest of their lives. Please choose wisely men, North American women are poisonous and should be treated as such.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

 

[Jaylan]

Says she was sexually assaulted. I dont feel bad for the guys involved at all. If it was consensual sex, thats one thing. But that doesnt seem to be the case. Nevermind them being douche bags who decide to record and upload what happened online.

Bullying and ridiculing someone whos been sexually assaulted is pretty damn cruel. Especially if its a teenager being bullied, as many kids that age are still learning how to deal with their emotions and problems. I cant imagine how someone deals with being sexually assaulted, let alone bullied and ridiculed about it. I really doubt this girl would have killed herself over having sex she wanted to have. I mean lets be real.

OP I think you need to find a better case in which to defend the boys and victim blame the girl...because the dudes in this case are definitely douche bags. They deserve punishment. Its beyond me how 2 d!kheads get more benefit of the doubt than the dead girl who was constantly ridiculed and harassed.

Ive been around troubled kids before, so I dont treat bullying and suicide lightly. It can be real rough to be so young and put through an emotional ringer. Separate of the sexual assault part, those 2 idiots deserve whatever they get for being stupid enough to document their having sex with some chick and putting it online.

When you pull d!k moves like that, I cant feel sorry for the situation you put yourself in. Hopefully young men can look at this case, as well as the Steubenville rape case, and know what they should and shouldnt be doing with young women. Young guys gotta be smarter.

 

[switch]

gaylan STFU , go back to your closet and jerk off to christian bale or something

chicks fvck athletes, secretly get pregnant by retrieving condoms from toilets,then post it on facebook and demand child support

those athletes arent human huh? dont they have feelings? those cvnts, they laugh their ass of and ridicule these athletes while living on their child support for the child they didnt want.(thats why they used a condom fvcktard)

as for the OP , come on its just a woman being a woman , blame the nanny state for being an ass-wipe.

all girls are slvts but only for the *******s.the nice guys are left for cuckolding and provision of slvt-food.its a fact.stop complaining about it.accept it and move on.

if that makes anyone here bvtthurt then they can complaint to the faggot-rights commission run by gaylan on love-shack.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

http://news.yahoo.com/2-charged-deadly-canada-cyberbullying-case-053506130.html
Women have no responsibility to anyone in North America and anyone who touches a North American woman is simply asking for trouble.

North American or Canadian? What would you say if this happened in South America? Would you say western hemisphere so you could include the states in the demographic?

I love how you sit over in your "utopian" asian paradise and constantly clown on the U.S.

Anyways.

I'm with Jaylan on this.

Posting pics like that on FB? Or even online at all? That's just mean.

 

[Jaylan]

gaylan STFU , go back to your closet and jerk off to christian bale or something

lmao you mad :crackup: Why get so butt hurt over a difference in opinion? Are you that emotionally bothered that someone dare speak out against sex abusers who violate a persons privacy with video tape?

chicks fvck athletes, secretly get pregnant by retrieving condoms from toilets,then post it on facebook and demand child support

those athletes arent human huh? dont they have feelings? those cvnts, they laugh their ass of and ridicule these athletes while living on their child support for the child they didnt want.(thats why they used a condom fvcktard)

What does that have to do with THIS case? So because some women in unrelated stories have been b!tches, it means that a sexual assault victim in the original post's story should get no sort of support? Because of bad women in other unrelated stories, we should uplift two jerk bag teenage punks who obviously did something wrong?

as for the OP , come on its just a woman being a woman , blame the nanny state for being an ass-wipe.

all girls are slvts but only for the *******s.the nice guys are left for cuckolding and provision of slvt-food.its a fact.stop complaining about it.accept it and move on.

Again, what does that have to do with the case we are trying to discuss? Seems you are just another "nice guy" whos upset that women sleep with the "jerks" and not you. If that makes them sluts...then I guess thats sad for you that you cant even get the slutty women. Calm down dude, and discuss the actual main story presented by the OP.

if that makes anyone here bvtthurt then they can complaint to the faggot-rights commission run by gaylan on love-shack.

. The only butthurt person here is you. The guy whos so emotionally tied to his viewpoint that he cannot make an argument without trying to flame someone. Grow up.

North American or Canadian? What would you say if this happened in South America? Would you say western hemisphere so you could include the states in the demographic?

I love how you sit over in your "utopian" asian paradise and constantly clown on the U.S.

Anyways.

I'm with Jaylan on this.

Posting pics like that on FB? Or even online at all? That's just mean.

Thank you.

I mean, just when I didnt think the gender bias on this forum couldnt get any worse, this thread pops up. Can some of the people on this forum just not recognize wrong when its wrong? Can they not separate the gender view of things and see sh!tty behavior as sh!tty behavior?

If some teen girl sexually assaulted a teen boy, or even if it was consensual, and then uploaded a video of it online...then went around school mocking him, telling and showing everyone that he had a small penis for example...and then the boy kills himself after enduring months and months of shaming and ridicule....not a single guy here would bash the victim and try to defend the girl.

When male sex abuse victims step forward and tell how priests sexually abused them, I dont see guys here creating threads or making posts doubting those guys who were young teens at the time. We wouldnt see defense of the priests. Yet when a woman is sexually abused, and theres video of it, and two asshats put it online, people actually wanna flame the girl and give the guys the benefit of the doubt?

Even if I left the sex assault accusation out of it, and went along with some idea that the sex was consensual, its still a d!ck move to ruin someones life by documenting what happened and uploading it online. That craps forever and will follow them forever. And teens are pretty volatile human beings to begin with. Who the hell wants to be bullied by their whole school for a year?

Yet kids still dont learn not to do this crap. The Rutgers kid commits suicide over someone putting his personal sexual life online, the Stuebenville jerkoffs rape a girl and take pics of it, and now we have this case...yet young men dont learn to knock off this crap. People gotta be smarter.

People can victim blame all they want, but the perps in all these situations caused their own downfall. If they treated people with respect, they wouldnt have ruined their own lives.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

I have some pics of some of the girls I was dating. Some of them are pretty graphic. A few of these women have kids and successful careers. If I really wanted to I could really fvck some $hit up and cause all kinds of grief and emotional distress.

But why would I do that? Why? It makes no sense to me. It's just pure evil. There's a difference between maybe showing a friend or two rather than irresponsibly sending these pictures out not giving a fvck if they went viral or not.

Like the law that Canada instituted, these laws will eventually come around to the U.S. The sooner the better if you ask me.

One wrong move when you're a young, dumb teenager and you can all but ruin someone's life. If you're later on in life and still posting $hit like that online then you're just a worthless piece of $hit. Unfortunately there are good people out there who are too trusting. Because they're naive and not experienced in the ways of the new world, they're made to pay...now as it seems, for the rest of their lives. It's pretty bad, and getting out of control.

I tell you, if that girl was my sister/daughter/friend. Those guys would get their own form of justice. I would make sure of that.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I tell you, if that girl was my sister/daughter/friend. Those guys would get their own form of justice. I would make sure of that.

Yes because how dare we hold a woman accountable for her own slutty actions.
You white knights will rally around women no matter how stupid and indecent they are. Why isn't anyone saying "ya, know what? You play with fire, you get burned." No one is accountable anymore, its always the other guy's fault.

The police investigated the matter for over a year and returned that there was NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE AN ASSAULT HAD TAKEN PLACE.

The girl voluntarily fvcked those two guys, took pictures and then had buyer's remorse when she was pressured from other females and told she was a slvt. Why is this all the men's fault? If you read the article it was clearly stated that they were all MINORS when the event took place. She was 17 when she died and they were 18 years old (probably went to school together)...

Maybe you should be asking your friend/sister/daughter what the hell she was doing getting naked with two guys that have bad reps in school for using girls. But No, women are always the victims right? Doesn't matter how irresponsible her actions were, its the guys fault. She may have been a b1tch or a complete slvt in life but we can't factor that into the equation whatsoever, the bottom line is that a Canadian girl's feelings were hurt by a guy and she felt shame for what she did, a capital offence in Canada. She killed herself because she felt overwhelming guilt and embarrassment that someone publicized her actions. Now we have to find the ones responsible for making her feel like a slvt and exact justice... The police concluded no assault took place, did you read the article. The case was reopened later after they were pressured by certain interest groups.

Even if I left the sex assault accusation out of it, and went along with some idea that the sex was consensual, its still a d!ck move to ruin someones life by documenting what happened and uploading it online. That craps forever and will follow them forever. And teens are pretty volatile human beings to begin with. Who the hell wants to be bullied by their whole school for a year?

Boo fvking Hoo, man I was beat up and bullied in high school for four years and not one single person gave a fvck about me, it made me a better, stronger person... a teen girl kills herself cause she is bullied for something she did and the country is up in arms. If you know what you are doing is wrong and irresponsible, maybe that's a good indication you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. How dare I point out that women should be accountable. When I was in high-school there was a certain group of jockey popular guys that did exactly this but funny enough the women were falling all over themselves to go to those parties and do that. Once the football team showed pictures to their friends of a girl who gave 21 bl*wjobs to the entire football team in one night. Would you want to be the guy who marries her? God forbid anyone is held accountable for their indecency any more.

You guys remind me of the manginas who follow women around during the Slvtwalk (also started in Canada) btw.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

If she doesn't have sex with you she's a b1tch. If she does have sex with you she's a slvt.

Is that how it works? Learn as much game as you can, convince a girl to have sex with you, take some pics of her whether she knows it or not...then just go ahead and post them online.

What about moral turpitude? Common decency?

Sure there's no conclusive evidence of sexual assault. One word against another right? Did she change her mind after? Don't know.

But what I do know is that these guys posted a pic of the alleged assault of the underaged girl they tag teamed online.....on facebook. Are you fvcking kidding me?

Seriously? That's okay? No big deal huh?

 

[LiveFreeX]

It wasn't an assault until she felt shame and decided it was an assault.

Can you imagine if all of the women in porn pictures on the net suddenly had buyer's remorse and claim they were assaulted? You'd have people going to jail left, right and center.

What about moral turpitude? Common decency?

I agree with you, if this girl had been brought up with any then she wouldn't be dead right now. Why is it just men that are responsible for common decency and moral values? Women are not capable of this?

So basically you are not to be held accountable for anything you do in life as long as you are a woman. If you are a man though, you are automatically declared a rapist. The law favors women. Double standard much?

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

As you recall, nothing was done to these guys until she killed herself and the story gained international attention. Then they were convicted of a child pornography charge.... you do realize it's illegal to post naked pictures of underage people online....right?

Do you not think this girl was held accountable for her actions? She was...times 100. To the point where she killed herself. Why would you want to cause someone so much mental harm to where they kill themselves? Someone who apparently agreed to have sex with you and your buddy. It does not make any sense to me.

This $hit happens all of the time btw. Go to any porn site, how many videos and pictures do you think are uploaded without the consent of both parties.

The only reason these guys were convicted was because the girl was underage at the time of the pictures. They got convicted of the one crime that could be proven and should have convicted of in the first place.

And you're complaining about it.

It wasn't an assault until she felt shame and decided it was an assault.

And how do you know this btw?

 

[LiveFreeX]

it says right in the article that an in-depth investigation was made over the course of a year by police and no conclusive evidence was found to suggest an assault.

Do you not think this girl was held accountable for her actions? She was...times 100. To the point where she killed herself. Why would you want to cause someone so much mental harm to where they kill themselves? Someone who apparently agreed to have sex with you and your buddy. It does not make any sense to me.

To a point where she killed herself? remember SHE KILLED HERSELF. She caused herself that mental harm, no one forced her to do that. She could have simply left school or gone to night school, taken down her facebook account and shut off the computer, there are PLENTY of options but the victim was so vain she instead decided SUICIDE. She was obviously mentally unstable to begin with. I was bullied, so I stayed home and finished my year at home before changing schools... no one came running to help me.

If you can't do the time, you shouldn't do the crime. Its pretty simple, she couldn't live with herself or her actions. Maybe people should start telling their kids to keep their legs closed and be made aware of what happens to slvts if they don't. But no, in our overly decadent society, I would be ostracized for telling a woman that. If instead there were FAIR laws protecting both women and men then you would quickly find less women doing stupid things. Now we have a law enforcing 'cyber bullying' where if a victim/woman feels violated in any way (including emotionally), her family can sue you.

Women used to call me loser everyday at school for being in the computer club. I was constantly beat up, ribs broken at one point, had people spit on me. I was called fag everyday by one girl as soon as she saw me... for what? I never did anything to anyone, I was quiet and I was a virgin way passed High-school... not a single fvck was given by anyone staff or students. A popular teen girl in this day and age gets ridiculed for being a slvt at a party online and people lose their sh1t. Comical when its a man, tragic when its a woman.

White Knight.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Oh, so you did nothing wrong and all of these people just happened to decide to bully you. Girls, guys, everyone. But you did nothing wrong. Do you see where your whole argument is filled with hypocrisy? Just because nobody stood up for you, including yourself, does that mean that nobody should ever stand up for anyone else?

It seems to me you're constantly running. First to home from the bullies at school when you were a kid, then as an adult, to Asia from the evil people of the U.S.

Now you've found a forum where you can sit on your pedistal and b1tch and spew your hate and deep down insecurites.

Sometimes we all need to face our demons...you seem to be full of em.

Therapy might be a good start for you.

 

[Jaylan]

It would seem that LiveFree has a grudge against women based on how girls in his past treated him as a youth. This grudge seems to make him hold biases against females even in situations that differed from what happened to him growing up. I dont see the point in being harsh on a girl being bullied just because he was once bullied by women. Nor do I see a reason to jump to conclusions and give 2 jerkoff boys the benefit of the doubt all because some girls back in his youth were skanks. That makes little sense to me...I mean, why blame the victim, when at one point you were a victim of verbal and physical bullying yourself?

And though he talks of double standards, he seems to apply a gender double standard to this situation. I mean, young boys commit suicide a lot more frequently than young women. According to the logic of LiveFree, its their faults they ended up bullied and dead. They made the decision to be a dork, or to date that girl who got them depressed, or to piss off someone who ended up bullying them. All the victims fault right?

Lets apply his logic evenly across the board. Could I not victim blame men who end up divorced, taken to the cleaners and committing suicide because of the woman they married? I mean they did choose a bad woman under their own accord right? Could I not victim blame the virgin whos always had bad luck with women, whos lonely and is sick of it so he kills himself? Or is victim blaming only applicable to females?

Its like he said "If you can't do the time, you shouldn't do the crime"...right?

But in reality, people are bullied or end up in hardships for a variety of reasons. And bullying someone is never OK...no matter what they did in the past. We cant pick and choose when its ok to bully someone or to victim blame. Either you stand with the down trodden, or you stand against them.

LiveFree, Im sure you wouldnt stand against young boys who get bullied (for whatever reason) and end up depressed and contemplating suicide would you? Dont be a hypocrite and apply double standards here.

And you should try and let go of your past grudges. Some people treated me like sh!t in my youth too, but that doesnt prevent me from applying my logic evenly across the board.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Still waiting for political pressure to deliver trumped up charges against a woman for something she did to a man...

Yeah!!!!

That way I can stop feeling sorry about myself and stop crying like a little b1tch.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Says she was sexually assaulted. I dont feel bad for the guys involved at all. If it was consensual sex, thats one thing. But that doesnt seem to be the case.

Actually, that was the case. The sex was 100% consensual, which is the reason why no charges were laid initially. It's funny how you are so quick to conclude that this woman was a "rape victim" even though there is not evidence to suggest that...you feminist troll.

The girl in question wanted to have sex with those guys. This was confirmed by a female witness present at the party. That same female witness even brought her freaking mother over to the party house to try to convince the "rape victim" to leave and not have sex with the "rapists". The "victim" was adamant that she wanted to stay. Also, the "victim" did not call the cops until a week after the incident, when the photograph started making the rounds. The evidence makes it clear that she changed her story and falsely accused the men in question of rape in an effort to avoid being labeled a slut.

Here's some background on the story:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...-pornography-charges-in-rehtaeh-parsons-case/

 

[Jaylan]

Actually, that was the case. The sex was 100% consensual, which is the reason why no charges were laid initially. It's funny how you are so quick to conclude that this woman was a "rape victim" even though there is not evidence to suggest that...you feminist troll.

The girl in question wanted to have sex with those guys. This was confirmed by a female witness present at the party. That same female witness even brought her freaking mother over to the party house to try to convince the "rape victim" to leave and not have sex with the "rapists". The "victim" was adamant that she wanted to stay. Also, the "victim" did not call the cops until a week after the incident, when the photograph started making the rounds. The evidence makes it clear that she changed her story and falsely accused the men in question of rape in an effort to avoid being labeled a slut.

Here's some background on the story:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...-pornography-charges-in-rehtaeh-parsons-case/

Oh gimme a break. Stop following me around threads nancy troll. The guys are getting what they deserve.

End of story. Bullying isnt cool.

 

[speed dawg]

Oh gimme a break. Stop following me around threads nancy troll. The guys are getting what they deserve.

End of story. Bullying isnt cool.

They didn't bully her.

It's like your mind is made up and liberally slanted before you even get the facts. Then you spend 95% of your time trying to make your viewpoint factual. But you just look stupid. It was consensual sex. Can't you read? And if these guys were so terrible, why'd she let them run a train on her? You know they were *******s before this incident. She had to have known.

But I agree they should be punished for putting the pics online, whatever the law allows. That's f*cked up. Trash that needs to be eradicated.

 

[speed dawg]

I remember back in hs this complete slvt named debbie fvcked 4 guys at once and they took pics and showed the football team.

To me, it depends on if she willingly took the pictures. If so, f*ck her. I guess it's still child pornography though, technically. That's why those porn hors have to sign contracts before they let, eh, 'handled'.

Bigger question is, is this how low we've gotten in society? This stuff is a power play, it's not about getting some p*ssy. Men in the pick-up community get lots of p*ssy, but purposely humiliating people? Why would you want to do that? What sense does it make.

 

[Jaylan]

No. They are not. Unless of course consensual sex suddenly constitutes "sexual assault" because the girl in question felt like a slut after her antics were posted on facebook.

I'm not sure if you are deliberately trolling because that point seems quite clear.

After reading your posts in this thread I'm beginning to see how you earned the title Gaylan.

Read the post above this one. Whats the point in publicly humiliating someone?

Some of you guys on this forum cannot see past your own gender bias. Whenever someone tells a story of a woman publicly humiliating a guy, or doing something that could ruin his life, the lot of you are ready to sound your rally cry against the female.

But if a guy does some low crap all I ever see is female condemnation. The dudes fvcked up in this situation. Simple. Young men have to be smarter. But I wouldnt expect a social leper to understand how to build a good life for themselves in society. Social lepers end up ruining their lives, like these 2 young idiots in the main story did.

Oh wells. Thats life. Some folks are fvk ups, and some are successes. These 2 boys are fvk ups

They didn't bully her.

It's like your mind is made up and liberally slanted before you even get the facts. Then you spend 95% of your time trying to make your viewpoint factual. But you just look stupid. It was consensual sex. Can't you read? And if these guys were so terrible, why'd she let them run a train on her? You know they were *******s before this incident. She had to have known.

But I agree they should be punished for putting the pics online, whatever the law allows. That's f*cked up. Trash that needs to be eradicated.

The girl was ridiculed throughout her school because of these guys and constantly shamed by these guys. How is that not bullying? So I guess if I start trolling some dude in real life, taking pictures of his misfortunes, and taking an online crusade against him...all the while having other people join in to make fun of him online and in person...that wouldnt be bullying?

If someone treated us or our friends like that in high school, Im sure we wouldnt say it wasnt bullying.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Oh gimme a break. Stop following me around threads nancy troll. The guys are getting what they deserve.

End of story. Bullying isnt cool.

No, I'm not following you. It just so happens that whenever something really dumb gets posted on this board, it usually has your name next to it. I don't think that's a coincidence.