"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Cut first or bulk first?

BuddhaSMASH

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Ok. I'm about to start working on getting into shape, and I need to know: is it generally recommended to do a cutting cycle before bulking or vice versa? I fall into the morbidly obese category (BMI: 41.7%) and losing weight is obviously the top priority. However, I've heard that having large amounts of muscle aids in the weight loss process. So, what should I do first? Cut or bulk?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Cut. It'll get easier to do the weight training when you're carrying less baggage. With the BMI you posted you'll see some pretty sweet changes quite fast, if you control your diet and keep to a regular cardio schedule. Hit up a gym too, get a workout schedule and stick to it. Keep these exercises in mind and find out how to do them: Squats, Deadlifts, Bench press.

Post an update on here once a week to keep yourself motivated and on track.(weight, BMI)
Write down EVERYTHING you do in the gym as well, its a BIG motivation boost to see the improvements you are making.

Keeping to a gym or exercise routine is very hard(atleast for me), its all about how much you want the changes. Just stop and think for a minute, right now....think to yourself how much you want the changes....
 

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Sorry for my blunt honesty my friend.

But you asked the exact same question more than 3 years ago here:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22507

And all you managed to accomplish in three and half years was passing from "chubby" to "morbidly obese"???:eek:

I think the very first thing you need is to get the huge determination to actually exercise regularly during a long time frame(you will probably need years to get in shape), before knowing whether you need to "cut or bulk first".:nervous:

Anyway, just to answer the question, of course you need to cut first, and right now!
 

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Depends on how much you weigh. 170 and above-cut. 140 and below-bulk.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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BuddhaSMASH

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Le Parisien said:
Sorry for my blunt honesty my friend.

But you asked the exact same question more than 3 years ago here:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22507

And all you managed to accomplish in three and half years was passing from "chubby" to "morbidly obese"???:eek:

I think the very first thing you need is to get the huge determination to actually exercise regularly during a long time frame(you will probably need years to get in shape), before knowing whether you need to "cut or bulk first".:nervous:

Anyway, just to answer the question, of course you need to cut first, and right now!

Thanks for the words of encouragement. :down: FYI, I did attempt for about two years following that post to lose weight. I saw no results, got fed up, and quit my routine. I recently found out, however, that the reason I saw no results then was because I have a thyroid disease. I'm being treated for the condition now and my doc says that if I start a weight loss regimen now I should see more success than before.

As far as the cutting vs bulking question goes, I just simply forgot what the original answer was. :p
 

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BuddhaSMASH said:
Thanks for the words of encouragement. :down: FYI, I did attempt for about two years following that post to lose weight. I saw no results, got fed up, and quit my routine. I recently found out, however, that the reason I saw no results then was because I have a thyroid disease. I'm being treated for the condition now and my doc says that if I start a weight loss regimen now I should see more success than before.

As far as the cutting vs bulking question goes, I just simply forgot what the original answer was. :p
Sorry to hear that man.

What's great is that now you know what was wrong, and it's being treated.:up:

Yes, first cut. And you never know, maybe after cutting you won't like being that buff after all. Maybe you will like to be fit and lean so bulking just a little afterwards would suffice.
 

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i just dont get why people actually quit if they don't see results straight away,

basically the way to think is if you, in fact do decide to quit then you KNOW you wont get anywhere, if you carry on then in the long run you will lose weight and look good!

just keep going regardless of whether you think your progressing or not!
 

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stevey_2000 said:
i just dont get why people actually quit if they don't see results straight away,

basically the way to think is if you, in fact do decide to quit then you KNOW you wont get anywhere, if you carry on then in the long run you will lose weight and look good!

just keep going regardless of whether you think your progressing or not!
After working out and dieting for two ****ing years and gaining weight throughout the process...yeah I got frustrated and quit. I later found out that with the disease it was physiologically impossible for me to lose weight. :p
 

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Did the doctor say whether you were always diabetic? Maybe you overate bad carbs or something and it changed you into a diabetic.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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hope7 said:
Depends on how much you weigh. 170 and above-cut. 140 and below-bulk.
Let's pretend I was 195 at 7% bodyfat. Would I cut?
Also, what about the people in the 141lbs-169lbs range? Do they just sit there?


"Bulking" and "Cutting" are two useless phrases to me. It's all based upon how you look. Want to get bigger? Lean Bulk. Want to get smaller? Lean Up. Simple.

Enough with this bulk OR cut stuff. you CAN do both. I have to a small degree, with improper diet.

As to the main question, you my friend, need to just exercise. I wouldn't worry about bulking or cutting. Eat 5 or 6 smaller meals (MEALS not snacks) a day. Get your exercise in. Weightlift AND do some high intensity cardio. The weight will come off and you will get stronger, you will have more energy etc.


Also, look into the Paleo Diet. Helps people all over the place lean up.
 
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