Current experiences with women....

[Warrior74]

I've been out of the game lately, so no real field reports, but I have had some interesting and telling experiences with women that I know from my social circles.

Girl 1. 27, we used to date, she used to be a wild club chic at all the raves I used to throw. DJ groupie, but smart comic book nerdy type with a hot body. Who thought her brains put her above the dumb dj hoes. She was just the dj hoe who was friends with the djs. Constantly craves male attention. As she started hitting the first wall (25, no job/lifeskills, living in trailer, single mother, getting pumped and dumped), she found a chump to marry her. He has a great job, comes from a good family, she's a housewife now and this guy is raising her child as his own. So...we talk and she tells me how she totally made out with this 23 year old boy and now he won't leave her alone. She feels "guilty" for leading him on. She's afraid he's going to act up and get her caught. She's not feeling bad for her husband, or violating her marriage vows. Nope. She only feels bad about this kid rocking her stable boat. All of this a month before her one year anniversary. Yeesh. Won't be long until she's actively hopping on kawks behind her husbands back, and infact I wouldn't be suprised if she hasn't been the whole time. Can't turn a what in to a what? You already know.

Girl 2. The career woman. We grew up together, our mothers are friends and are very active in community events. She runs a small newspaper that is slowly going under. She is not attractive. She's almost as wide as she is tall and has 5 children and a newspaper to run. Her facebook is a constant string of "where are all the good men" "how come men won't step up to the plate!" She asked me personally what I looked for in a woman, I sent her an email explaining the sexual market place and her current role in it. As expected she got mad, called me shallow and blamed men for being superficial and spouted off about how men are just afraid of strong women. It's everyone's fault but hers.

Girl 3. Former booty call, Texts me out of the blue, tries to get me to take her out for drinks for her birthday since we are "friends" and invites me to her birthday party. When I decline her offer she tells me that she hopes her boyfriend comes back in town in time for her birthday party. LOL.

Girl 4. Straight up Slut. A friend of some mutual friends, she comes out for happy hour one night. I could tell she was garbage from the jump. She was a fag hag and had tons of attitude. For some reason she reminded me of a gay man in her mannerisms, and with her large hands and pithy yet stupid comments on everything. I asked my buddy if she was a man. Anyway, I was repulsed by her right of the bat and didn't try to hide my disgust at all. I should have known better...that's like putting out **** and expecting not to attract flies. She stalked me on facebook, got my number from a friend and has been calling for a couple of weeks. Our mutual friend tells me that she usually dates thugs and ex convicts. In a random conversation I thought to test her a bit and while talking about someone we knew who was getting out of prison, I joked with her "better be careful if you start dating him, he might have that jailhouse AIDS!" And she shot back with out missing a beat "Oh they test them for that before they get out". WHY THE FVCK DO YOU KNOW THAT? is what I was thinking. Needless to say, I haven't talked to her since.

Girl 5. Ex Girlfriend from College. I used to date a lot of cheerleaders in college, after my fiance broke it off, I went to Girl 5 for comfort. She was one of those chics who was hot but still nerdy, we used to be the bestest of buds and watched Star Trek together. I actually took her virginity, but when I fell in love with her she rejected me. Coming off of losing my fiance it was too much and I went into a horrible depression and eventually withdrew from everyone I knew for a while. Oh so AFC! Thanks to the miracle (curse) of facebook, she finds me and tells me her father lives here in town and she's coming to visit. Let's just say the years haven't been kind to her. She went from having a perfect cheerleader body to having a perfect linebacker body. So sad. She's put her career first traveling all over the country and is now approaching 35 and has nothing but a big bank account and a beat up car. No home, no husband, no kids, just single serving friends from all over the country. She tells me how I've changed and I'm not the nice Star Trek loving geeky guy she used to know. She kept saying how she wants that nice guy back, and that I need to settle down with a good woman (LOL desperate much?). After a few weeks of phone calls and what not...she finds out I'm seeing a 23 year old and goes on a facebook rant for several days about men who refuse to grow up and how all men are dogs. Such is life.

 

[zekko]

Warrior, I enjoyed reading this post because it's a slice of reality.
I am curious though, about the underlying point you're trying to make. Is it just "see how bad/stupid women are, or at least these particular five women"?

By the way, if you have been out of the game lately, does that mean you are exclusive with your 23 year old?

 

[squirrels]

All women seem to have a touch of this "attitude" in them.

I'm sure there are exceptions...I haven't met them.

It's more like they're on a continuum...some have it all the time, others only have it when it suits them, others hide it away until they get stressed out and lose their composure.

I've given up on finding a woman who doesn't have that chunk of female-insanity. I'm looking for one now who is aware of it and is embarassed enough by it that it can be countered with friendly laughter and teasing.

 

[Bible_Belt]

What you're seeing is how much women fall in value as they enter their 30's. This is why men date younger women.

 

[zekko]

What you're seeing is how much women fall in value as they enter their 30's. This is why men date younger women.

How about Girl 1, who seemed to have lost most of her value by age 25?
On the other hand, there ARE women I've known who have kept fit and attractive into their thirties.
Then there are women I've known who have kept fit into their 50s, but unfortunately by that time most of them are not as attractive, even if they have remained fit.

 

[Colossus]

I've given up on finding a woman who doesn't have that chunk of female-insanity. I'm looking for one now who is aware of it and is embarassed enough by it that it can be countered with friendly laughter and teasing.

Word.


What I noticed about Warrior's latest entertaining read is that none of those women have any personal accountability for the way things turned out. Not a shred. It always goes back to men and what men didnt do for them.

The depressing part is that I see this in every single female I know, and that's not hyperbole. I really think they are constitutionally incapable of accepting that their own choices have led to unfavorable outcomes. And trying to reason with them is about as effective as herding cats.

 

[DanelMadr]

Yep. Actually I've seen one feminist sociologist talking about this. Mind you she introduced gender studies in my country but she is quite smart, brave and does not have an agenda. She was persecuted dissident through communist times so she is not your average socialistic "let's change the society through BS theories" type of person.

And she saidin short)" Women are in crisis, they marry too late and have babies too late. They have too much distractions in their lives. They can travel, pursue career etc. and they can't handle it all."

And I say...men and women mature slower. They are not forced to mature fast and enjoy simple things when there is so much what they could do. They won't but they could. Nothing is forcing us, quite the opposite - distractions everywhere. And it is tougher for girls...they are not build to be on their own and their sexual value goes down much faster. Actually the best time for a woman to have kids is between 14 and 23 years of age.

If I was a girl I would do it like some of my older female friends did it. They got pregnant when they were 18 and now they are free to pursue "happiness".

And btw have you noticed how today it is everyone's (government) responsibility to help/pay for people pursue of their happiness? Gay people want to have children, girls want to fly space shuttles and so on. Fvck that. They are no fvcking kids anymore. They are adult. No more free rides in Disneyland. The question should be "Does NASA profit from a woman flying a space shuttle?" No? Not so much? Only making one girl dream come true, a few more can keep dreaming on and thousand of feminist can make an accomplished goal. But NASA does not profit from that.
Are you a woman wanting to join Marine Corps? Well, fvck you. Let's ask the Marines if they need you there. No? So get lost. We are not a company for making your dreams come true.

Why am I so angry about it? Because meanwhile we try to help some few selfish adult kids to feel better, millions of real helpless kids eat dirt and die.

I feel sorry for homos and feel sorry for girls. I really do. But I'm not paying for their free rides in Disneyland.....and then listen to them crying how they missed the important things....trying to blame me.

 

[Warrior74]

Warrior, I enjoyed reading this post because it's a slice of reality.
I am curious though, about the underlying point you're trying to make. Is it just "see how bad/stupid women are, or at least these particular five women"?

By the way, if you have been out of the game lately, does that mean you are exclusive with your 23 year old?

My point? Mainly just how I see a general lack of accountability or even self awareness in a lot of women I met. It's as if they are unaware or uncaring of the true image they present. Now I will say part of that is because I come off as very non judgemental when it comes to women. I am a listener...its one of the good things I have left from my extreme AFC days. I would listen to everything a woman would say...but I was stupid enough to take it all at face value. Now I'm smart enough to read between the lines to what they are really saying and even savvy enough to get the ones that trust me to admit the truth (when I can be bothered to go that deep into a conversation).

I think many are unaware because they have BS'd so many men in their lives they assume that if you aren't squawking and calling thim dirty slvts then you're sold on the lie.

I don't dislike women....I love most of these women they are good people, most I ahve known for years. But I'm just not blind to how the female animal behaves. And I can't be. And most men I talk to aren't either...but they still willfully go into bad situations and hope they turn out okay. Dealing with these women is really not much different than dealing with my 8 year old daughter. I notice this women act like grown up versions of my child. I expect a child to be a child, to not take responsibility, to lie, to be a little lazy, to just want to have fun, to respond well to praise, to be afraid of disappointment/ punishment and to learn from their mistakes. It seems a lot of women fully embody that lack of responsibility with none of the fear of punishment for their actions. For instance,

Girl 5 tells me how she is going to get artifically inseminated and raise a child on her own. I tell her it's a stupid idea as children need fathers. She says she's perfectly capable of raising a child alone. I hit her with this.

Me: Do you think you turned out better than your peers who grew up with a single parent?
Her: Yes.
Me: And you grew up with both parents?
Her: Yes.
Me: And your parents are still together right?
Her: Yes.
Me: And you agree that children from a single parent home have more problems in life?
Her: Yes.
Me: And you have a job that requires you to travel all over the country correct?
Her: Yah...but...
Me: And you don't own a home or have a permanent residence?
Her: But if I had a husband...
Me: No you said you were going to do this alone...maybe you need to think about what you're doing.
Her: I can do what ever I want to, I can make it happen.
Me: pssfff!

This woman works in oncology labs around the country. She's not dumb. But there seems to be a lack of critical thought there. When I was in college she probably could have had me and several other guys who wanted her...now she can't get anybody worth anything. And she's just doesn't seem to be able to learn from the facts that are right in front of her face. I understand her decision is an emotional one...time is running out for her to have a child, but she has to be willing to see the possible problems and know how she will deal with them before rushing into such a decision.

Anyway to answer your other question. I was dating the 23 year old up until last week when she went back to England. I've been working alot had haven't really been looking for a replacement. She's been begging me to come to London, but I can't afford it yet.

 

[DanelMadr]

Dealing with these women is really not much different than dealing with my 8 year old daughter. I notice this women act like grown up versions of my child. I expect a child to be a child, to not take responsibility, to lie, to be a little lazy, to just want to have fun, to respond well to praise, to be afraid of disappointment/ punishment and to learn from their mistakes. It seems a lot of women fully embody that lack of responsibility with none of the fear of punishment for their actions.

Yes that I found out too. It shocked me that my little sister is behaving exactly like "grown up" women from like 2 years of her age and proceeds to do so of course.

I think I pity them. I try not to but I can't help it. I think I've always pitied them and maybe that was a (one of the) reason for my lack of game. For example I told them "I like you" too early on to make them feel better and not to worry meaning "Don't you worry, I like you."....yeah I know, really stupid. Actually it is the main advice they give..."Just tell her you like her." Unfortunately this advice comes from girls with broken heart wanting to hear that from a man they already desperately love.

Little girls should be teased, tickled, not taken seriously and of course let them come to you through their curiosity. And once you chase them be sure to pin them to the ground once you tackle them.

But I do respect them too...when they are not totally stupid.

 

[Warrior74]

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that a woman cannot reach true maturity until her sexual value is depleted. You ever meet really ugly or fat chics who have it together and act like responsible adults? I think that's because they have no sexual market value and they HAVE to. The more sexual market value a woman has the less like an adult she has to act. I'm sure supermodels are the worst spoiled children in life.

 

[squirrels]

That and post-menopausal women who have lower levels of estrogen f*&#ing up their minds.

Female president? Maybe, if she's over 55.

Do you really think that, in the absence of hormones, behavioral habits that have been reinforced since puberty will suddenly disappear?

:woo:

 

[Nutz]

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that a woman cannot reach true maturity until her sexual value is depleted. You ever meet really ugly or fat chics who have it together and act like responsible adults? I think that's because they have no sexual market value and they HAVE to. The more sexual market value a woman has the less like an adult she has to act. I'm sure supermodels are the worst spoiled children in life.

Fully agree. The exceptions to the rule are women who were raised by a dad that didn't dote on them giving them free passes, and subsequently never felt comfortable with male attention. This is different from women with low self-esteem. The former are actually uncomfortable when guys ogle them or hit on them all the time. The latter soak up the attention and feed on it.

 

[DanelMadr]

Female president? Get the fvck outahere.
Women go for bad guys you see. Two hours negotiating with Saddam and she hands him the launch codes.

Check this video out...Human face - Beauty

It is BBC documentary on human face. This series deals with beauty. It is extremely interesting and funny.

Mind you it is cut to 6 parts. In one of the parts some mature hot actress or certainly someone famous (I really don't remember her name) speaks about what her father told her when she was a child: "Beautiful girls have it tough. They are more likely to commit suicide...bla bla". And she concluded that he meant that she needs to develop personality. Because when her beauty fades out she would be left hanging.

Btw estrogen is real b!tch. I'm not totally sure but I think it makes your moods swing like crazy.

I've seen on Discovery Channel a girl who wanted to be a man. She went through testosterone therapy and spoke about the changes. She said that she can run longer now and that she can't exactly identify her feelings as she was able to do before. Estrogen is b1tch.

 

[MatureDJ]

She runs a small newspaper that is slowly going under. She is not attractive. She's almost as wide as she is tall and has 5 children and a newspaper to run. Her facebook is a constant string of "where are all the good men" "how come men won't step up to the plate!" She asked me personally what I looked for in a woman, I sent her an email explaining the sexual market place and her current role in it. As expected she got mad, called me shallow and blamed men for being superficial and spouted off about how men are just afraid of strong women. It's everyone's fault but hers.

OK, so she's a short fat marshmallow, with the only redeeming quality being massive teats, I presume. So virtually no man, save the real bottom of the barrel, would want anything to do with her to begin with. Then she has, not 1 kid, but 5!

But us eligible bachelors want to stay away because we are afraid of strong women? :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: