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I just wanted to get some of your opinions on going after a chick from a different culture than yourself. I know every girl wants to be treated the same way and universally you do what you normally do but I want to dig a little deeper.

What's one or two things you would focus on with a girl from her native country then you would with an Americanized girl?
 

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Nickface said:
I just wanted to get some of your opinions on going after a chick from a different culture than yourself. I know every girl wants to be treated the same way and universally you do what you normally do but I want to dig a little deeper.

What's one or two things you would focus on with a girl from her native country then you would with an Americanized girl?
Girls from eastern cultures generally have grown up with their father being the total leader of the household. They generally want the same thing in their own relationships, the man being the leader. They also have a more practical view of what to look for in a relationship. But keep in mind, parents of such girls generally want their daughters to marry into the same culture because they have more security like that. Both families will feel shame if there were to ever be a divorce.

White girls, especially college educated ones, are much more entitled and believe they are god's gift to the Earth. They have no family structure and culture to control and temper down their hypergamous nature. They will do what they feel makes them most happy, without having to calculate the consequences of their family coming down on them like a ton of bricks.
 

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Girls from eastern cultures generally have grown up with their father being the total leader of the household. They generally want the same thing in their own relationships, the man being the leader. They also have a more practical view of what to look for in a relationship. But keep in mind, parents of such girls generally want their daughters to marry into the same culture because they have more security like that. Both families will feel shame if there were to ever be a divorce.

White girls, especially college educated ones, are much more entitled and believe they are god's gift to the Earth. They have no family structure and culture to control and temper down their hypergamous nature. They will do what they feel makes them most happy, without having to calculate the consequences of their family coming down on them like a ton of bricks.
Very interesting point made. I think the fathers role in the family plays a big part in a girl finding the right suitor for herself. I guess that does give the guy the added pressure of 1) performing under the stress of playing the more dominant role then usual and 2) impressing the parents.
 

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First of all, what native are you talking about?
 

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LeonSK said:
First of all, what native are you talking about?
I was speaking in terms of generality. How would you go about in getting a native girl compared to american. It would get confusing mentioning specific groups.
 

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What I found is that the deeper they are rooted into their culture, the less you stand a chance of getting any where. In this situation they will tend to stick with their own kind and family will make sure if that.

The more they are willing to Americanize, The more they will be willing to date outside of their culture, therefore you'll have better chances.

Believe it or not, there is still a lot of ethnic groups that don't wanna hear about their children hooking up with other races or cultures. Heh...good thing America's money is always accepted...but I digress.
 

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Nickface said:
I was speaking in terms of generality. How would you go about in getting a native girl compared to american. It would get confusing mentioning specific groups.
If you are talking about in general. This sound cliche, but at the end of the day it all comes down to 1)look 2)money/status 3)personality.

Native Asian girls are generally more subtle in expressing their feelings and more passive, so you gotta be more active in pursuing. They may like you a lot a lot but never show a sign. They just want to wait you to make a move. When you guys are in a relationship, she will be quite dependent on you -- requiring more attention…

Good luck!
 

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VladPatton said:
What I found is that the deeper they are rooted into their culture, the less you stand a chance of getting any where. In this situation they will tend to stick with their own kind and family will make sure if that.

The more they are willing to Americanize, The more they will be willing to date outside of their culture, therefore you'll have better chances.

Believe it or not, there is still a lot of ethnic groups that don't wanna hear about their children hooking up with other races or cultures. Heh...good thing America's money is always accepted...but I digress.
Yea it really does come down to how rooted they are. A lot of cultural girls come off as being really sweet/nice and many people can confuse that as being a sign she likes you. While simply that can just mean that your different and they are just being curious, and want to be portrayed the right way. Haha money statement was funny but absolutely true...
 

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My sister is getting pounded by a white guy cause she hates her culture. I hate women like that. You should go for a woman who is proud of her culture.
 

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My sister is getting pounded by a white guy cause she hates her culture. I hate women like that. You should go for a woman who is proud of her culture.
Lol this made me laugh but I agree. What's your ethnicity if you don't mind stating?
 

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Would rather not say. I guess it works out better for white guys if the girl hates her culture, lol.
 

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all that matters are how much she and her parents care about the culture and how much she cares what her parents think.

there are some girls who might not want to break the cultural barrier

there are some who are OK with it, but would face hell from the family so they don't

there are some girls who are OK with it and don't care what the family thinks/would just hide it from them

then there are the girls who are OK with families who aren't, but they don't have to worry about what their families think.

finally there are the ones who are OK with families who'd be OK

you'll want to find the girls of the last 3 types or convince girls of the first 2 to become the last 3
 
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