"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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pyros

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Hi, I wrote this in another thread but I did not get many replies, anyway:





hello.


I met this hot chick last week in a pub. We chatted, we laughed, I kino scalated a bit etc so I got her number.

Two days later I write to her via whatsaapp. She replies, we have a convo etc. She always takes more than an hour to reply so I do the same.

Next day we continue the conversation and she tells me:
'For now you look too ****y so I give you the chance to show me Im wrong'
I ignore her and continue my convo till I suggest we meet for a drink.

It's been one day and she has not replied, I see her online though.




How do I proceed from here?

Thanks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ok. Last news.
I suggested to meet and she did not respond.
Two days later I wrote to her: hey, whats up?
she replied: hey, sorry, yes, we can meet tonight if you want.

So we arranged it, we met, we went for a drink...we laughed, I teased her etc.
when we were drinking I got close to her and she said: uh uh, and she just stepped backwards a bit while still smiling.

After that, we went to dance salsa ( she does not know, I do know) we danced for a bit, we went outside. We laughed, we talked, she touched me many times, she said while laughing: 'you're such a jerk haha' several times.
Then I got close and went for a kiss and she turned her face bit so I did stopped. Then I joked a bit, and we went in to dance a bit more.

Then I drove her home and she said:
'well, now I go up and...that is all ok?'
I said: 'yes, and you sleeping alone tonight because you're a silly silly girl hahah...'
She suggested we meet another day to dance salsa.



Wtf? never in my life a girl turned her face when I went for a kiss.
Ideas? tips?


She's very hot.

P.S.
this was first date after we met in a pub.
 

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Hi.

So last news:

I wrote to her today.
We exchanged some texts, she asked me what I was gonna do this weekend etc.
I suggested we should go to the beach and that she should buy me an ice-cream. She replied:
'what? you want me to buy you and ice cream?'
me: 'sure, big one.'
her: hahahah well well, we'll see. Btw I'd rather go to dance.
me: well, we could go to the beach for a while and after that, at night we go to dance.
her: ok.

so we'll meet tomorrow.


Opinions?

p.S.
I was thinking about just having a good time, teasing her etc (as Pimp-sicle suggested) and then either going for a kiss by the end of the night, or just doing nothing and see if she gets closer to me, gives me IOI's and see how she behaves.

P.S2.
Im not willing to be an orbiter, I've never been one so if after this nothing good happens, Ill next her or maybe keep her as a female friend.
 

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hi.

last news.

So we arranged a second date.
She wanted to go to dance, I wanted to go to the beach, so we did both.

Btw, Pimp-sicle you were absolutely right!
We went to the beach, I teased her a lot, make her laugh, we talked...I teased her more and more...we swam...

Then at night we went to dance. I kept my distance. I teased her and bust her balls, etc etc
This time she was trying to get closer to me, not me trying to get closer to her.
By the end of the night I could feel that she was surprised I did not try anything.
Then, I dropped her home... and we started to make out in the car. She suggested to meet again.
Good ^^


P.S.
I have to say that I normally tease girls, but with this one (HB8.5) I REALLY TEASED HER, more than I would normally do.
 

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Update.

This chick contacted me today to meet to go dancing. I suggested to have dinner at a restaurant and then go dancing. She said that she was gonna have dinner with a female friend but we could meet at 23h.
I said that we could do both things but tomorrow. In the end, she said that her female friend was sick (weird) and that we could do both things tonight.

Later at 22h she arrived 15 mins late. When we said hello to each other I went for a small kiss on the lips but she turn a little bit her head so we kissed almost in the lips but not totally.
We had dinner, had some laughs, talked etc.
Then we went to dance.
The dancing was so so, because it is a salsa lesson, really basic, so I get a bit bored. After the class we danced like we did on sunday but the mood was not so good as on sunday but it was ok.
Then, outside the club we were repeating some moves and then I went for a kiss and she got closer and I got a hug. I joked and acted normal.


After a while I dropped her at home and I just said bye to her, to what she looked to me with a weird face and she came closer to kiss me, so we had a small make out session, but it was shorter than on sunday. I was expecting longer than the previous time....


why she did not kiss me when we were in the street?
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Hello.

See this. Three days after our third encounter, I mean today, I wrote to her. Talked for a bit, some laughts, ok.
I suggested to go roller blading at 17h. She said sure, but Im gonna have lunch with my male room mate and then Ill go to the beach but we can meet at 19h if you can.
I said lets meet at 18:30 because of the Sun, she said ok but that she has to go to the supermarket because tomorrow it will be closed so she has to go there around 20:30, so I said: so just go now and do not bother me woman, and she said: well not now, Im gonna have lunch lol.


then she texted me to insist we met at 19h because she could not make it before.
Then she called me and I said ok but then I said that it may get cold if we go roller blading so late (I got pissed so I declined the plan), and that I have to meet my friends at 21:30, so I said we leave it for another time.

Then she said: 'oh so you cant... ok...' and she said that tomorrow she's going with some friends to dance salsa and asked if I'd like to go. To which I replied that if none of them knows how to dance a bit, I'll think about it...


What do you think guys? she could just meet at 19h because she was 'busy' before ok, but she said also that she had to go to the supermarket at around 20:30. Then I decline the plan and she suggests to meet to go dancing but with her friends? wtf?
last two times we went to dance we TWO, nobody else included.
What do you think?
Did I manage it ok?



Thanks.

p.S.

I was thinking about writting to her today and suggesting to roller blade and then go with her friends to dance.
 

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low interest... don't chase her. Leave her alone I would say.

It seems she doesn't seem to fully appreciate you at all. A girl that would be into you wouldn't have turned her head.

I would say move on into a new one.
 

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Interesting situation. On the one hand she seems to be showing interest by agreeing to meet you but then when she does meet you, she acts all hard-to-get.
I don't think it's a bad thing her wanting to introduce you to her friends. If you decide to meet them, put on the charm and earn their seal of approval.

Also, it just crossed my mind that she could be fvcking her male roommate and could be setting things up to branch swing to you....just not yet though.
I mean, she seems very reluctant to show affection to you in public which could indicate she's worried about another guy seeing you two.

Another thing. I've been really working the "tease" and "bust her balls" angle on a plate and she loved it first but recently she's been getting upset and taking my teasing personally.
Everything in moderation, don't overdo the ball busting.
 
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