Critique on approach style/ Convos

[tobby]

Ive read the bible and gone on a bunch of approaches, but I get the same results. Sometimes I've got a number, but they don't answer. Other times I've not gotten anything. My convos with women haven't been much better. I know I'm getting opportunities, but I feel like something's misssing.

I'll admit I'm clueless. I'm really clueless. I've never had a GF or even kissed a girl (unless you count that time when I kissed some drunk *****!) I'm not getting what I need from the articles, so I hope I could get some more instruction.

Here's a sample approach (I did this yesterday):

#1

Saw a girl (HB 7, cute but nothing spectaculuar, anyway I needed the experience) out the corner of my eye as I was crusing around the mall. I got eye-contact and she smiled so I acted as she was going down the stairs.

Me: Hey where are u going?
HB: to some store? (I don't remember the name maybe Buckle or something like that)
Me: Why it's not like you have enough bags already?
HB: (silence and cold look)
Me: (The silence threw me off so I say) well anyway, I'm tobby by the way. What's your name?
HB: (again silence)
Me: Well, I have to go but it was nice talking to you.
HB: (she heads off)

#2

Chilling at some dinner function and this cute girl from one of my school clubs comes up to talk to me. I tried to chat with her earlier, but it was kind of weird.

HB6.5 : Hey it was nice that you came out to this thing, most of our group members didn't come out.
Me: Yea, I wanted to come out and support this event since it was for charity. I also didn't have anything better to do. (tried to joke about this)
HB 6.5: (silence, again I didn't know where to go here so I try to keep talking)
Me: Well, what are your plans for for Christmas break? I can't wait to get out of here after exams, you know I just need that time to relax and goof off.

HB 6.5: I don't really know.
Me: (She gave me nothing to work with? I thought the question was open-ended enough?) I live around here, but it'll be fun. I'll probably hang out with my friends, enjoy all the home food etc. I wish I was going somewhere though? You leaving somewhere?

HB 6.5: I'm going back to Indiana to my family?
Me: Cool so are u an only child, or do you have a bunch of brothers and sisters?

HB 6.5: I have a brother who's older than me.
(Silence)
Me: Well is he a good brother or did he get on your nerves? (I said something like that.. can't remember it entirely)

HB 6.5: He's alright.
(After more dead moments I got into asking what year she was and stuff like that, she would talk for a sentence and then off into silence. I ran out of things to say and the she got up.

Situation #2 has happened with a lot of the girls that I run into on campus. I'm wondering what to do to escalate or do I just "ask for a number in the middle of the convo". I don't want any of my stuff to come across as weird because I still see these girls in my classes or clubs and stuff.

 

[Heyjose25points]

Sup bud, i've been in the same situations as u have as of late too. How do u spark the attraction necessary?

One thing thats been helping me is smiling. Have u smiled or have a friendly tone of voice/expression on ur face or dull/neutral voice?

The first conversation you should've asked her in a funny smiling way, what she was gonna get you and which store, etc.

The second conversation, i feel ya man...u'll get awkward responses...ive gotten them. For that convo, I recommend for the reply in that convo u could've asked more of what the charity actually was of and how she likes it there.

Its all good.. u got many more approaches to go my friend, as do i
the party's just gettin started bud!

 

[tobby]

I watched the show keys to the V.I.P. Some of those guys suck, but some of those guys are incredible. I've been to clubs and never got responses like that. I mean make-outs within minutes. I'm wondering if it's staged, but I don't what to be a hater.

Anyway, I have no clue about how to escalate or get the tension in conversations up. I haven't been able to make a girl "stay". I also don't really feel natural or like "it went right!"

#3

Went to walgreens to pick up some acne medication. I saw this cute lady at the pharmacy, so I decided to try and work on my convo skills a bit. Anyway here it goes.

Me: good evening!
Her: hi, how can I help you?
Me: I'm just here to pick up a perscription.
Her: Blah, Blah, (the usual what's the last name and stuff..)
Me: Man it's so late, it's 12 o'clock I should have came here earlier.
Her: (silence, this **** annoys the hell out of me)
Her: Your total is $10.
Me: Ok, here you go.
Me: Have a nice day!
Her: You too.

This stuff is killing me, I'm wondering if it's my body language or something. I think i'm ok looking, but shouldn't you get good responses with women if you're attractive not the opposite.

I need some more advice here!

 

[Heyjose25points]

hey bud! you should ask how they're night is and comment on it. That helps em gettin to talk, course that'll only take u so far too.

 

[rrrrr]

I watched the show keys to the V.I.P. Some of those guys suck, but some of those guys are incredible. I've been to clubs and never got responses like that. I mean make-outs within minutes. I'm wondering if it's staged, but I don't what to be a hater.

Anyway, I have no clue about how to escalate or get the tension in conversations up. I haven't been able to make a girl "stay". I also don't really feel natural or like "it went right!"

#3

Went to walgreens to pick up some acne medication. I saw this cute lady at the pharmacy, so I decided to try and work on my convo skills a bit. Anyway here it goes.

Me: good evening!
Her: hi, how can I help you?
Me: I'm just here to pick up a perscription.
Her: Blah, Blah, (the usual what's the last name and stuff..)
Me: Man it's so late, it's 12 o'clock I should have came here earlier.
Her: (silence, this **** annoys the hell out of me)
Her: Your total is $10.
Me: Ok, here you go.
Me: Have a nice day!
Her: You too.

This stuff is killing me, I'm wondering if it's my body language or something. I think i'm ok looking, but shouldn't you get good responses with women if you're attractive not the opposite.

I need some more advice here!

with this conversation, i'm not sure what kind of response you were looking for? all you did was make a complaint about how late it was? were you expecting her to give you her number because you said it was late? maybe some pickup artist has some input on what he could have said???


as for your first one, i knew you were trying to be ****y/funny, but put yourself in their shoes, what would you have done if someone went up to you and said those things? i'm not saying i'm perfect, i'm going through the same thing trying to pick up strangers, but these are my observations on yours.

my two recent convos were saturday night, at the bar. a girl walks by me and bumps into me, apologizes. later on, she walks by me again, i put my hand on my soulder and say "you're not going to bump into me again are you?" she looks at me, smiles , and bangs her hip into me, and walks on with her friend.... later that night, a girl walks up, says sorry she bumped into me earlier that night or some crap like that, but she did not. I said something, as she was leaving the bar where she got her drink, i ask "what are you having," she says "jack and coke" i say "gross how can you drink that" she smiles, but it's too late, she got her drink and is walking off with her friend.

Both times, they were with friends and they went about their business. I guess you could call these failures but they didn't all out reject me, and at least they didn't ignore me which is what i see alot in bars. this is what happens when i go to bars alone and meet girls already in groups, on the other hand, i get approached when i go by myself it seems like. so there's a tradeoff.