Creating Value Over Girls You Kno Damn Well You Don't Have Value Over

[SexinEar]

This thread was at first going to be a rant, a whine, a bi.ch fest, but surprise, its not.

You know the little ugly loser girl with no tits, no ass, ugly, out of place no matter what she does. The girl you know you wouldn't fuk or even talk to if she was the last vagina on the planet. Your value over her can be measured in light years. This is the girl that always ends up sitting next to you and likes you desperatley.

Ok, you do nothing to get her to like you, but she does, is it looks or value that gets her attracted?

Because that value feels powerful, its awesome, but how could you apply this to a girl you want, or is it just looks looks and looks. I mean if having value over a girl can get her attracted some how, how can you portray that value effortlessly to a girl I want.

And whats the answer to that, being confident? Sometimes thats easier said than done.

Am I overthinking everything?, is this site to blame?, am I a minor leage pitcher trying to pitch a perfect game in the major leages so to speak? I may have to get away from this site because its making me break not only girls but any social situiation into a science. I'm rating alphaness of one guy over another and crap like that all the time.

 

[GaryUranga]

IMO... and it sjust me.. as a person who had to overcome social anxiety and Im on my way of getting my social skills and all that sh*t, Ive learned that its all about balance, sure things make sense if you start being a philosopher and overthink everything and figure out the details of why things work, and how to make them work and all those lil things, they do ma ke sense but its A LOT to keep in mind, then on the other hand theres the attitude of not giving sh*t about anything and just doing it and just being in that perspective where you GET it that life isnt a big deal, girls arent a big deal and it just allows you to relax.

Ok dunno if that makes sense, thing is that were all in the big leagues, sometimes we pitch no hit no runs and sometimes we allow 25 runs in the 1st inning, just get in perspective, whatever happens its no big deal, youre always in a win-win situation with this, if you "fail" you get skill if you "win" then good that also means skill, work on getting your mindset together and keep the perspective.

 

[DrDiesel07]

Because that value feels powerful, its awesome, but how could you apply this to a girl you want, or is it just looks looks and looks. I mean if having value over a girl can get her attracted some how, how can you portray that value effortlessly to a girl I want.

And whats the answer to that, being confident? Sometimes thats easier said than done.

It is not just looks...This is apparent everywhere around you....It is not just the good looking guys who get the chicks...It's the ones with the personalities....Confidence is a key part of this....

Yes at first being confident is easier said than done...Everything is....even riding a bike. But then once you learn it you will have that skill or attribute forever. Confidence can not be learned, because u already have it. You really just have to access it. As you start doing more and more things right, not just with girls but in life, your confidence grows. Focus on things you are good at and confidence will increase. Apply that feeling of confidence to social situations. Then your social confidence will increase as well. Trust me - i used to have absolutely no confidence in my social abilities...i would pretty much completely break down around women....In less than a year I completely turned that around by just putting myself in situations and letting myself learn from them. Experience is the best teacher.

Wow sorry about the long response but I hope it helps.

Also youre right you shouldnt be overanalyzing things...Just go with what feels natural or sometimes what you see others do...its better IMO to learn from others then from this website

 

[Skilla_Staz]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "value" but that girl desperately wants you because the attitude you're expressing to her is "I dont care about you". She's trying desperately to GET you to care about her.

 

[SexinEar]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "value" but that girl desperately wants you because the attitude you're expressing to her is "I dont care about you". She's trying desperately to GET you to care about her.

Ok, i'm asking how you can have that with a somewhat attractive girl and not just the scraps. It seems impossible unless your extremely good looking and/or popular.

 

[Quiksilver]

I know exactly what you're talking about. Infact today even, I set up a date with an amazing girl from a class I have. She's pretty far up there on the social ladder, and I'm sort of an outsider who has everybody's respect.

I'll try to make this as simple as possible, coming from experience. What I did was:

1) Take the class of course.
2) Sat at the back; found where the popular kids were.
3) Positioned myself near them, almost in their "group".
4) For the most part, acted like I didn't give a crap about any of them(ignored)
5) Talked to them from time to time, joking around(building trust/familiarity)
6) Teased the popular girls of the group, made them my slaves.(get them to go get handouts and worksheets for me)
7) By this time I had some respect from the "cool guys" in the group to initiate convo's, get them to laugh with me, etc..
8) Some days I would act like a total jerk to them, some days nice(hot/cold)
9) Recieved some IOIs from the popular girl that I thought was attractive
10) Next day, sat beside her and started talking...number closed, talked after class, set up a date for THIS friday

Essentially you have to DHV, while acting friendly/jokingly/sexual. In my case i established myself as a potential alpha of the group--by showing my lack of care for them, yet at the same time having fun with them--and i suppose peaked the interest of the HBs of the crew. The hard part is knowing when to move in for the kill, then grabbing your nutz and going for it. Once you start flirting w/ the HB, her friends and guy friends DO know what the **** is happening, and realize what you've done. I guess I'll see how they react tomorrow, I have no idea haha.

I bagged easily one of the hottest girls in the school, in my opinion

So yes, just do exactly what you did to that UG to the HB. Except you have to gain respect of her friend(s). Once you do that, if she's interested she'll give some IOIs and open up to you, AS SOON AS SHE DOES THIS, GRAB YO NUTZ AND START FLIRTING.

Hope this helps, I'm still learning too.

 

[Michael Chief]

You know the little ugly loser girl with no tits, no ass, ugly, out of place no matter what she does. The girl you know you wouldn't fuk or even talk to if she was the last vagina on the planet. Your value over her can be measured in light years. This is the girl that always ends up sitting next to you and likes you desperatley.
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Because that value feels powerful, its awesome...

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make me feel powerful. That just makes me want to vomit and die a million deaths. This one girl is so desperate and hit on me and my friends...and very very not-good-looking.

lol but with girls who are actually bearable...sure. yes, i know exactly what you mean.

And, Quicksilver, congratulations. sounds like you did an excellent job. That deserves praise! Man, i miss those fun days when i was single =P

 

[dot]

In less than a year I completely turned that around by just putting myself in situations and letting myself learn from them. Experience is the best teacher.

That's sort of true but I know people who have been sitting on the outside of circles not saying anything for 3 years now.