"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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davy_74

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Hi guys I’m confused as hell, need some help from the expertise. I decided to stop being an anonymous reader, and becoming a first time poster. Well, my English isn’t to good, but, I’ll do my best for you to understand me.

I met this 32 years old woman, good education, doctor, blond, green eyes, she has everything in the right place and in the right size, she is a 10. Let’s say 8 because we didn’t have sex. I’m 32, and we know each other since we were kids, but never were friends.

Well for some reasons we started talking and we stablish nice rapport, and she always smiled at me. So we went out and everything was fine. In the second date we kisses and start together. Everything was really fine. She said me that she likes me since we were boys and that she would like to make larger our dating process before the first kiss, because she felt insecure about having a relationship of any kind, but she will try because she felt so good with me. When this woman kiss you, you can really feel a kiss. She is cute, takes care of me, smile at me and everything fine. That first week she makes me feel like in paradise.

Now begins the problem. Everything was fine between us, but at the same time she started talking about she feels isn't a good time for her to have a relationship. That she doesn’t want to loose her freedom, but she doesn’t want a non serious relationship either. At the same time she goes to my home 2 or 3 times a week and stays until 3am and it’s very importat to say that she has to wake up for work at 6 am, so she prefers stay with me and sleep only 3 hour, but at the same time still feels insecure about having a relationship. I just don’t get it. If she want me go away why she go to my home at night and sleep only 3 hours? The other thing the furthest I can go is getting her bra off, kiss her beasts and touch everywhere, but when things get really hot and I try to remove her tinny underwear she goes "no no no", so I use every trick I know, hair pulling, biting, dry f.uckin etc. get her really turned on....she should now obviously wanna have sex....and say again “cool down, relax, we can not have sex yet" and everything starts again.

Last Saturday we went out and she start talking again about that, and I was surprised when she decided to end the relationship because she need time to think. She said that she likes me and enjoy the time we spent together but she need to know if is more important to her to stay with me in a relationship or she prefers to be alone. By the way, her last boyfriend was a jerk that sucks her as much money as he could, and by the way, she is beautifull, serious, and have money. I stayed calm and try to erase every point of her leaving her unarmed, so we finish the night smiling, kissing and hugging, but she stills saying that it was our last night together. Returning home, we get my home and at 12 I said, well our time is gone, and she smile at me, gave me a kiss and said that she can gave me 2 more hours. Is she playing games with me? Grgrgrgr.

She knows that I have feelings for her. Maybe I made a mistake, but you don't really have the idea the way she kisses me no matther she is proposing a break up. IT feels pretty high when I'm with her, and when kissing she is really kissing me, you know what I meant. Maybe she is afraid of another failure, maybe she is affrais of being in love, I just don’t know, but I really know I need to stop this process and make her confortable with me and erase those ideas of her mind.

Another fact, I didnt make a strong move, I guess I respect her too much and don’t want to mess things us (usually id go straight ahead but she's different...shes hot but not the type of girl that goes with many guys). I think I was too lovey dovey early on and now I’m on deep S… you knw what.

I know if I can get her she'd be worth it. I went her house and everything fine, more kisses, huggin, and touching when her mom or brother aren't present, but steel saying the same about ending, or simply saying that I don’t respect her decision, but steel kissing me. She ask me for some time apart, saying that if she really needs me she will call, but at the same time why she talks so much with me trying to make longer my visit, and why the kisses, why she makes me feel so good and bad at the same time?. I tried to desapear for a couple of days but she doesn’t call me, or visit me, so I went there again and again she kisses me and the same. Is she affraid? Maybe I’m becoming a wussy, I just don’t know, but I want to make this work.

Your comments and help would be really appreciated guys.

David
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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DavenJuan

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couple things...my first observation from your post is that you keep the ball in her court. She is calling all the shots and you are letting her.

You want to know why she is so unpredictable, why she is saying one thing and doing another?? its because she doesnt know what she wants. They never do.

You are waiting and waiting for her to give you all theokay and that should not be the way you handled this.

She is priveldged to have been with you. Maybe you come off to needy. maybe she can easly see that you will do anything to be with her. I dont know.

What i do know is that your meindset is a little blogged.

She is getting all the emotional ties that she gets in a relationship without having to actually commit to you. Step back and take a look, you need to call the shots. YOU tell her when its time for her to leave. YOU tell her that you gave her 2 more hours, not the other way around

its sounds like she enjoys your company and think you are a great guy..but you arent taking the lead
 

Bible_Belt

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Maybe I’m becoming a wussy

fwiw, I'd put up with rejection no more than a couple of times before I went elsewhere to get laid. Is she getting you off at all? I'd wait a long time for actual sex if I got amazing head every night, but it sounds like she is just a selfish b!tch who does not really care much about your happiness.

I'd say to tell her that her indecision is not meeting your needs, and that she can either share you with other women or give you what you want in a relationship (sex). Every day that you tolerate this bad situation, ignoring your own needs, will make you a but more of a 'wussy' in her mind.
 

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DavenJuan and Bible Belt said it perfectly. One more thing dude, SPIN...YOUR...PLATES!
 

PectoralisMajor

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This is not good. If you want to better yourself and have some self respect for with this girl here's what you need to do:

1) dont be so available to her. Start doing more things with different people ( girls, guys, sports clubs whatever)

2) If she wants to meet up, dont dismiss your plans. Tell her 'youd like to meet up but your already going gym etc.., maybe we can do something another night'

3) You need to have some control over this relationship - she's calling all the shots.

4) The one about being in bed and her stalling rings real alarm bells. Stop trying to get her horny - its a loosing battle as you now know. Instead dont be funny with her, kiss and cuddle, but dont take it past there.

You seem like a genuine guy, but you need to get some more experience with women because this girl is eating you alive.

Oh, and ITS GREAT she doesnt want a relationship, means you can go do whatever you want with whoever and not worry about her.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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