Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Crapping on your own doorstep!!

Macca

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Well I don't post much here but I do visit often - but without logging in.

Anyway heres my problem/story/fvck up:

I asked a girl out for a drink and she said yeah. Now I work with this person (yes I know major screw up) and she is in her early 30s. The day comes for us to go out for a drink and I notice she's acting very odd, I didn't bother asking her cos she seemed to be ignoring me but happily chatting with others. After work I called her up and she said that she was too tired but will give me a ring later if she was up for going out. Ok, fine I thought - I wrote off the night and decided to get some beers and have a night in. She txt's me later to tell me what I already expected "I'm not coming out blah blah please can we re-arrange, please dn't get angry blah blah", so I replied fine I'm stopping in seeya tomorrow at work...next thing I know I've got a missed call on the mobile phone - I was out of the room for 20 mins so didn't here it.

So I called her back only for her to tell me that she doesn't want a relationship and isn't ready for this and that bollox, bollox, bollox, and more bollox. To be honest I was quite taken aback by what she said and asked what on earth made her say this - it was because she had seen her ex in the morning, it had put her in a mood and made her realise that she wasn't ready for anything. At this point I kinda raised my voice as I realised that she had lied to me about why she didn't want to go out - it wasn't because of being tired etc! Plus I was racked off about her waiting till the last minute to tell me that the meet up was off too!!! I could have arrange a night in the pub with my best mate, instead I was left high and dry with the prospect of having a pot noodle and a wank!

During that conversation she put the phone down on me! I was so angry that I txt'd some home truths to her regarding the breakdown of her previous long term relationship. She didn't reply.

I went into work the next day and she was ignoring me, well I expected that. The next day she emails me asking how I have the "nerve" to sit at my desk after sending her that txt. I ignored her email and left it for the weekend. After that weekend I suddenly had the odd thought that something awful could happen to her and the last thing I said to her was nasty - don't ask why I thought this but a documentry on bbc2 got me thinking. So I emailed her personal email address apologising for what I said. She replied saying that she couldn't understand why I wanted to hurt her. I replied saying that I made a mistake and left it as that.

For the following week she just blanked me at work, obviously my apology was not enough. Then she started hanging out with a female friend of mine that I share a hobby/activity with and started tagging along but she would still blank me at work?? I thought bollox to this and withdrew myself from the hobby as my female friend was giving her the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway, 3 weeks later (today) this girl sends me an email basically having a pop at me for "putting my friend in a situation", "all beacuse I didn't go out for a drink with you", "you don't care how your actions affect others", and "you've achieved what you set out to do" etc...this email was totally out of the blue! So I replied thanking her for such a nice email...and that was that.

When I got back home I txt'd her that I didn't understand why she emailed that stuff to me, it was nothing to do with going out for a drink, and it was due to her ignoring me that I kept away - well that was hours ago and she hasn't replied ...sort of knew that was going to happen!

To be honest I didn't ask her out for a date - it was as a friend who interested in getting to know her better. I hardly know her so I don't know what gave her the idea that I fancy her. And I don't know why after nearly a month she decides to fan the flames again??

Sorry for the long story guys but what do you reckon? Sorry for the poor grammer as my eyes aren't so good - left my glasses on the lave at work!

Cheers
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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blinkwatt

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Best advice I have for you is to ignore all her attempts to get a reaction/"I'm sorry" out of you.
 

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I know it wasn't me there... but really the angry responses and texting all because a girl didn't have a drink with you are a little much.

She's obviously got some serious issues (whether they're temporary or not who knows).

I'd just ignore her if I could.
 

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Well she cancelled your plans. She wasn't interested. All the rest that happened afterwards was your own doing. Next time when someone cancels your plans leave the ball in THEIR court to reschedule and do nothing further.

You got sucked into a classic case of drama simply because you missed the hint that she wasn't interested in you.
 

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You're spot on there, in fact all of you have hit all the nails on the head! I was a fool for not seeing the signs - or lack of - damn I'm a real knob!

Well I'll just ignore her from now on...and put it down to experience...and learn from it too!

Cheers Guys! Thanks for the wake-up!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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They're nearly all this retarded. They see absolutely nothing wrong with canceling last minute or lieing to your face. They'll completely rationalize things so that it's your fault no matter what. The best solution is to baseball bat them.
 

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Macca said:
You're spot on there, in fact all of you have hit all the nails on the head! I was a fool for not seeing the signs - or lack of - damn I'm a real knob!

Well I'll just ignore her from now on...and put it down to experience...and learn from it too!

Cheers Guys! Thanks for the wake-up!
Grats man. Welcome to the group.

You might want to apologize just to smooth things over at work...
 

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Well yea, you kinda fcuked up with the angry text **** lol... I never let bad emotions control me :p Good ones, sure.

But anyway you could alwyas just tell her 'Honestly, no one said anything about a relationship, I don't know where you got that idea?' Kinda throws her off and makes her realize she burnt herself and lost a chance with a cool guy.
 

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Can't come? That's too bad, I'll see if (insert her worst enemy) Cindy wants to come out with me.

And watch her reply begging you to take her ;)
 

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Whatever you do, leave her the fvck alone! If she's someone you see at work every day, you better be prepared to switch jobs if this trainwreck goes downhill.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Macca

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Thanks guys - some real good thoughts and answers there! Cheers it's real appreciated!
 

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I generally stay away from work relationships. Too many problems and awkwardness if thngs dont work out.
 

Macca

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No worries about work as I'm higher up the food chain, plus my employer doesn't get involved with this stuff...believe me I've witnessed others fvck up and they just get on with their lives!

Anyway, I've been thinking something today that has occured to me before but I somehow forget: basically if someone likes you they'll make every effort to hook up with you, especially if you make the first move! They wouldn't cancel a date or fvck you about because they like you too much! However, if they don't give a sh1t and need someone to 'use' then they will accept your approach but will no doubt drop you as and when they please.

This cow did that to me...I've answered my own question really! She don't like me...her loss! Move on Macca!
 

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You made some really big mistakes in your entire dealings with her but the good thing is you learnt from them. Even in your initial post, I think you already knew where you screwed up by the title alone (crapping on your doorstep).

However, the mistakes you made in your initial dealings I think are bigger signs of areas you need to improve on. You have to learn to better control your emotions and don't react so quickly, overtly, or negatively to a women choosing not to like you.

You give away your power, pride and dignity when you react so childish. Just a pointer to watch out for in the future. Good luck and keep up the good learning.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Macca

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Thanks for that MacAvoy! I'm happy that I'm at least demonstrating that I;ve learnt a lesson! Flexion was spot on when he said I should of left the ball in her court! It was at that point that I should of said "sure no probs, perhaps another time. Seeya at work"...but hey I'm gonna plenty of chances to say that to other girls if it happens again - not that I want it to happen again!

Trouble is guys I have a bit of a background where relationships are concerned...I'm gonna post my sob-story later tonight and invite some comments, inspirations, and p1ss take lol!!!

I used to be a member of this place in 2001 and I forgot just how helpful and full of wisdom people here are in comparison to other non-related forums!

Thanks again guys!
 
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