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Crap social conduct/skills, in clubs

BigWillyStyle

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They never were great or even good by any standards. They were Medicore at best. It's been over 2 months since I've broken up with my last GF. Now it just seems to be getting worse.

I faked attention deficiet disorder to get a prescription for Dexedrine(amphetamines) and everytime I go out now I just don't know what to say and become just too... vulgar. I get totally drunk or wired then start "approaching" girls. Now it's lame. I just grab their asses then spout out some crude line. Needless to say they quickly waltz off. They dudes in the clubs like me though.

It's like I forgot how to interact properly to females these last few months. Not that I ever was a fluid converser anyway but it's just the pits now. I freeze up in convos and just leave with a "ok bye" and scurry off for a few more drinks or pop a few dexedrines. It's weak and one of these days with my 'harrassing' behaviour you could say, I'm gonna get thrown outta a club for gropping girls. I just come on too strong. Dunno WTF is going down with me.

I think I'm just over-sexed right now(last lay was back in may with a rather slutty girl to say the least) Now chicks say they like guys to be assertive and take action, I've just been taking it too far with physical contact on strangers at clubs.

I just don't know how to be strong and charismatic with chicks at clubs and bars lately. I layed off my meds and the drink for a few nights out but then I just sit back like dip**** and don't approach in anyway. Guess gropping a complete strangers ass isnt the way to go. I guess I need to find a mixture between charisma/sutle/assertive. I just suck at conversation with girls in general. Now more so then ever have before though. I truly believe I'm just an over-sexed animal which must be seeping through and the chicks can tell.

Don't know what I really want to get for an answer here, more of a rant. Guess just to know how to get some ****in proper social conduct/skills :confused: Thanks.
 

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Caldus

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It's hard to get a good convo flowing at a club anyway. Too noisy and too many people around. Why don't you try the bootcamp out or something? There's always something to say to a female but sometimes it's hard to think of it. I know how you feel. Just throw yourself out there and start talking to them more. Try to last as long as possible. For the first few times you'll probably screw up but after that you should start getting better at it.
 

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I hate trying to pick up women at clubs because I'm so bad at it.

Beyond the fact that I just look goofy when trying to dance (and believe me, when you're my height, you have no choice other than to stand out and look goofy on the dance floor), I just can't get past my seemingly hard-wired social programming about "personal space" and going up to grind on random girls.

It just feels wrong.

Oh well, rant off.
 

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Originally posted by BigWillyStyle
I get totally drunk or wired then start "approaching" girls. Now it's lame. I just grab their asses then spout out some crude line. Needless to say they quickly waltz off.

I think I'm just over-sexed right now(last lay was back in may with a rather slutty girl to say the least) Now chicks say they like guys to be assertive and take action, I've just been taking it too far with physical contact on strangers at clubs.

Guess gropping a complete strangers ass isnt the way to go. I guess I need to find a mixture between charisma/sutle/assertive.

I just suck at conversation with girls in general.

I truly believe I'm just an over-sexed animal which must be seeping through and the chicks can tell.
You kind of came to your own senses in your post. The girls who will sleep with strangers that grab there ass when they first meet are slutty to say the least. And you're hardly over-sexed. Its the middle of July, you've rode that excuse about 5 weeks past its expiration date.
 
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