Craigslist post gets a reaction

[Phyzzle]

I'm just weirded out by the thought of meeting people through the Internet.

Hi, welcome to 2008. Those I-pod thingies? Like the Walkman, but better.

Oh, and you guys forgot: "no kids." Better fix that!

 

[STR8UP]

I really didn't think cute/hot women were actually on craigslist. I sure don't see them posted in the "women looking for men" section. That seems to have about nothing but fat ladies who call themselves "curvy."

Duuuuude.......I don't know why I didn't do this sooner, cause with the success of my "reverse qualification" ad for a cleaning service and the number of models I had ready to work for free.....well.....stupid me.

I'm telling you, within HOURS of posting an ad for girls to work on my tv commercials FOR FREE, I have several professional models, chubby girls with pretty faces, all the way to hot ass women who have never done a lick of modeling before responding to my ad. Try it and you will see how just how many hot women are browsing that site in your area. And you think they don't check the personals? Pretty much ALL of them do. They are WOMEN!

 

[STR8UP]

Hi, welcome to 2008. Those I-pod thingies? Like the Walkman, but better.

Oh, and you guys forgot: "no kids." Better fix that!

LOL....yea, I can only wonder how much internet dating will continue to grow as Gen X (the first generation to grow up with PC's) gets older and people get busier and busier with less time for a social life.

Anyone who looks at you strange for meeting people online (or in bars or wherever for that matter) needs a brain stretcher. There are decent people EVERYWHERE.

 

[Colossus]

Props

Awesome idea. Nothing original, but definitely a bold idea. I am almost inclined to try it myself.

Of course you get the inevitable "belittling women" card. Massive insecurity.

Funny how a starkly honest, confident assessment of yourself and what you want is construed as misogyny. Its threatening to some women.

I personally would encourage you to take it a step further and date some of your positive responders. Put your online experiment to a real-world test. Start a thread about your results and assess the validity of your method.

 

[mrRuckus]

Awesome idea. Nothing original, but definitely a bold idea. I am almost inclined to try it myself.

Of course you get the inevitable "belittling women" card. Massive insecurity.

Funny how a starkly honest, confident assessment of yourself and what you want is construed as misogyny. Its threatening to some women.

I personally would encourage you to take it a step further and date some of your positive responders. Put your online experiment to a real-world test. Start a thread about your results and assess the validity of your method.

Christmas was probably a bad time to post the ad. I've looked this morning and haven't gotten any more replies and it's been pretty much pushed down to the bottom with lots of guys posting how lonely they are on christmas and how they want a woman to worship. Sigh. Yeah i'm sure women want a guy who has NO ONE to spend christmas with. What a cool dude.

I probably will repost it next week after the 1st to see how things go. Maybe even meet one or two of them.

It's construed as misogyny just because it's the opposite of most guys. It's viewed as the other extreme and women are used to being in control. The natural reaction is to shrink away and be reviled... EXCEPT for the more confident women who want to rise to the challenge and prove that they are among the best and among the responses so far that's what they're doing... trying to prove they match all those qualities listed.

 

[MikeYikes122]

Hi, welcome to 2008. Those I-pod thingies? Like the Walkman, but better.

Oh, and you guys forgot: "no kids." Better fix that!

I don't own an I-pod. When I ride the bus or the subway I just prefer to listen to strangers' conversations. Same goes for when I workout.

 

[MikeYikes122]

It's construed as misogyny just because it's the opposite of most guys. It's viewed as the other extreme and women are used to being in control. The natural reaction is to shrink away and be reviled... EXCEPT for the more confident women who want to rise to the challenge and prove that they are among the best and among the responses so far that's what they're doing... trying to prove they match all those qualities listed.

Yeah, it's obnoxious that it is misconstrued as misogyny. If a girl posted a similar message, saying she was a prize and that she had qualifications for dating her, no one would bat an eye.

I think one of the reasons this works so well is because next to all those other guys who post on there, pining for a woman to put on a pedestal, post likes ours are going to stand out. I was just kind of perusing the men seeking women section and there are either a lot of foreigners (might be unique for my area) or a bunch of desperate, pathetic-sounding posters.

 

[mrRuckus]

Got my first letter from a woman (reads like a foreigner) who seems against my ad, but not totally:

"Hello my dear, as I must admit before furthering this conversation that I do not fit one of your prerequisites, which is not
a downfall for me! I just wanted you that I am older and wiser and must share some tidbit of information to you.
First, you speak about privileged well before you jump to such assumption you should first see if you are even worthy of the
one you choose before hurdling that obstacle.
Secondly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and if you thought that woman that occupied bars or clubs where a good catch

then you may want to look deeper within your inner self.
Thirdly, the exclusivity is really something that comes from both not one.
And lastly, just be careful in your choices and know that you must be able to equally give as much as you receive and not
with the same gesture.
Ex: if your girlfriend cooks you dinner, then you should show her your appreciation with flowers, candle and a bath not take

her our to dinner or necessarily you cook dinner.
Hope you did not take me personal/debatable as I am just trying to clue you into the female world. I think you will draw in
superficial woman who one know not to do this or that to catch you.

Take care and good luck!!"

Heh.. wiser my ass. And which part of "do not email me if you don't match these prereqs" is so hard?

Notice that she kind of complains and says she doesn't match the prereqs (i presume she's too old) but still left the door open to further conversation.

Mostly i don't even know why she's talking about the things she is.

I'm totally "clued into the female world" now.

 

[aliasguy]

I've watched this tread, and it sorta reminds me of a thread we had here a while back about the well-distributed Craig'slist post of some self-important, stuck-up chick with a list of "criteria" or "qualifications" she had for a guy.

She had stated she was "hot" (or some variation thereof) and she wanted a tall, good looking, rich dude, or something like that. And a guy replied that her "value" was gonna fall, and that she had not so much to offer.


And I thought more, and read this thread again, and I see the responses that you guys report, and I consider the straightforward "criteria" you have used in these ads. And, to be honest, the "criteria" you listed were reasonable, clear, and understandable. AND, most importantly, they are essentially REALISTIC. You CAN get a woman with these qualities.

Amazing the difference, when you look at the realities in the clear light of day. Aren't we lucky, guys?


In reality, we really DO have it so much better than women, whose value falls off so rapidly.

 

[KontrollerX]

Totally aliasguy.

A chick really has to work hard and hit the gym if she still expects to look like a knock out or even halfway decent at the age of 35 and on.

 

[STR8UP]

I personally would encourage you to take it a step further and date some of your positive responders. Put your online experiment to a real-world test. Start a thread about your results and assess the validity of your method.

You know, lately ALL of my interactions with chicks have been an "experiment". I don't take them seriously anymore!

I do intend to use this ad to set up dates, as that's about the only way I have time to meet women.

I'm gonna email the chick that sent me the pics the other day and see if she's real. I honestly don't give a damn if anything ever comes of this cause it's gonna kill what? Ten minutes a day responding to emails? If that's all the effort i have to put into getting the ball rolling i don't have a problem with that.

 

[STR8UP]

Yeah, it's obnoxious that it is misconstrued as misogyny. If a girl posted a similar message, saying she was a prize and that she had qualifications for dating her, no one would bat an eye.

I think one of the reasons this works so well is because next to all those other guys who post on there, pining for a woman to put on a pedestal, post likes ours are going to stand out. I was just kind of perusing the men seeking women section and there are either a lot of foreigners (might be unique for my area) or a bunch of desperate, pathetic-sounding posters.

Yea, these ads are like a giant 64 million color LED billboard among a bunch of crappy hand painted signs.

I was thinking about this today. One of the biggest benefits to this is the fact that you are getting HER to send her pics first, giving you an opportunity to "reject" her looks before she potentially rejects yours.

Ths chick that emailed me.....if she's legit I'm sure she has guys falling over themselves for her even though i would put her face at an 8 and body at a 7 (on my scale, I don't care for athletic women).

Placing an ad like this automatically puts you in the drivers seat when someone responds. Notice how most of the positive replies have essentially stated at the end "I hope you choose me for a date"? Now I have all the power. I can go in and no matter HOW attractive she is I can downplay her looks, so if she is at all interested by MY pic it will amplify it that much more. Then if I can just keep the frame all the way through it's in the bag.

 

[mrRuckus]

Amazing the difference, when you look at the realities in the clear light of day. Aren't we lucky, guys?

In reality, we really DO have it so much better than women, whose value falls off so rapidly.

Yeah but that just means there are so few worthwhile women. If they're mostly all falling apart in their 30s, everyone is aiming for women in their 20s and there are only so many to go around. Even if most of those guys are AFC, just from the sheer number to compete against for a smaller number of women makes it harder. And sure you might be awesome, but if she's always busy with eliminating these other guys how do you get much chance to demonstrate that you're different?

Not to mention the number with kids so they're straight up eliminated while the men with kids aren't necessarily out of the pool as readily as women.. then smokers... ugh.

That's really the problem for me anymore. Lots of women to be had but few I even begin to want. I find myself talking them up and then not having the drive to really follow through with it because they don't have that something extra.

 

[mrRuckus]

Placing an ad like this automatically puts you in the drivers seat when someone responds. Notice how most of the positive replies have essentially stated at the end "I hope you choose me for a date"? Now I have all the power. I can go in and no matter HOW attractive she is I can downplay her looks, so if she is at all interested by MY pic it will amplify it that much more. Then if I can just keep the frame all the way through it's in the bag.

Haha, yeah dude... I keep asking more and more questions to this blonde girl and she keeps on qualifying herself more and more. "I'm a really good cook! i can cook blah and blah blah blah." She hardly has a chance to find out anything about me because she's so busy trying to show how good she is. heh.

I asked her why she chose my ad to respond to since some other women act negatively towards it, and she had a pretty decent response. Snippet from the end of an email:

To answer you question: Im not surprised by your post. I can see how it would anger some women. These women, though, are immature and mostly likely don't have very high expectations. I think that you have to have the highest expectations if you EXPECT to get what you want. So, your angry women emails are those who aim low. It's also possible that they are thrown off by someone who actually lists out his exact wants and desires in a mate. But, what they don't realize is that whenever people come together, in whatever situation, their already subconsciously sizing up the opposite person in exactly the same kind of way. In their minds, they run through a list, "does he have this, does he have that, is he cute, does he want sex, does he work out...yada yada yada". So, it seems "bold" for someone to list these things. But, I feel it's only fair to you to expect someone who matches you, on all levels. I expect there to be equality in my relationships. I feel this way because I am in the same situation. I expect the best in all I do….why would I settle for less in the person I may potentially spend the rest of my life with?!? That is why I responded.

In general, I don't want you to misunderstand me or over-analyze what I say. Ill throw out some "safety" phrases just because most people take offense easily or take my personal bluntness the wrong way. Like with my racism comment. I guess it's my way of testing the waters and seeing how you interpret and respond to things. You are obviously of a higher caliber so you understand what Im trying to say. But, there are people who mistake "I seek a higher quality person" for being racist.

So, Ive written another long email. I would love you know more about you. Interests? Whatever you'd like to talk about. Did you have a good Christmas?

This gives me some hope that there are still decent, attractive women out there who are attracted to real men who go for what they want.

 

[aliasguy]

Yeah, MrRuckus, I understand, but there's a continually re-establishing supply.


Like that guy said in that Linklater movie Dazed and Confused about young chicks--- "I just keep getting older, and they just keep staying the same."

Happy hunting, dude.

 

[STR8UP]

And I thought more, and read this thread again, and I see the responses that you guys report, and I consider the straightforward "criteria" you have used in these ads. And, to be honest, the "criteria" you listed were reasonable, clear, and understandable. AND, most importantly, they are essentially REALISTIC. You CAN get a woman with these qualities.

Yea, it's funny, because unlike some women who's laundry list consists of SPECIFIC attributes that typically cannot be met by any one man alive (at least 6' tall, muscular, high paying job, hung like a horse), the list that us guys sent out was very GENERAL. Almost ANY woman could meet those criteria, if only in her mind. It wasn't set up to disqualify, it was set up to put the woman into qualifying MODE.

That's the key to being successful with women. If you can turn the tables and scrutinize THEM, they are all over you.

 

[iqqi]

Mikeyikes, I think that you should invite that chic to whatever nightspot you go to next. Tell her you and your friends will be at So and So spot, and to join you. Then it will be something you are more comfortable with, plus you have something funny to talk about already!

And if anything ever comes of it, you have a really funny story to tell! Its not like you guys REALLY met and hooked up online. It started off as a joke. Who would've known?

 

[Mr. Me]

Got my first letter from a woman (reads like a foreigner) who seems against my ad, but not totally:

Yeah, again, it's because some women will diss you, but they do it in a way so as to make them not appear rude, because they don't want you to think badly of them, even though they may hate your guts. It's an ego thing.

Notice that she kind of complains and says she doesn't match the prereqs (i presume she's too old) but still left the door open to further conversation.

When these ladies are writing you to tell you how, in their opinion, wrong you are, and they're even boasting about how they're glad they don't fit your parameters, and talking down to you, you're seeing a "mmmmm, get in touch with me!" somewhere in there? Okay, that's cool, if you wanna get more of a tongue lashing. And not the good kind.

I am just trying to clue you into the female world.

I thought Oprah was covering that!

This was a precious tidbit: "if your girlfriend cooks you dinner, then you should show her your appreciation with flowers, candle and a bath"

If my girlfriend cooks me dinner, I tell her I enjoyed it. That's her thank you. You'll be doing nice things for her too, and she'll be thanking you. This idea that a guy ought to bestow such gifts and attention upon the woman just because she managed to bake a potato is hilarious!

Secondly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Uh oh, that means she's ugly!!!!!

 

[wjh]

OK so, I posted my own for fun. I didn't put as much thought into it as you guys though =)

Here it is:
___



I'll start off by saying: I have had plenty of sex and am by no means desperate for it. If I just wanted sex I'd call one of the desperate girls in my phone-book and use her for a half hour. She may conjure up images of picket-fences and roses, but that is not my problem. If you can't tell, I'm no longer interested in just sex. ***** is the second most abundant commodity on earth after water.

What I really am interested in is someone who isn't psychotic, someone who is down-to-earth, and someone who isn't afraid of her sexuality (or my advances).

Most women are pretty much average in looks and disposition. If, because you are a woman, feel entitled to certain material "things" I will not entertain your e-mails. I don't pay for conversation, sex, or a good time.

I know most guys will feel that they need to impress women on here in order to get laid. I won't. I'm also not the type of guy to pander to a woman's ego, either. So if you require hours and hours of flattery, please, don't bother e-mailing me.

A few more items:

1.) Send a picture. If I receive an e-mail with no attachment I will delete it without even opening it.
2.) If you have problems with your body, are insecure, and/or psychotic, don't bother e-mailing me.
3.) If you're the type that requires hours and hours and hours of "getting to know" someone before you drop your act and start talking like a normal human being, don't bother e-mailing me.
4.) If you have any kids, don't bother e-mailing me.
5.) If you're not between the ages of 20-28, don't bother e-mailing me.

If any of the emails I get arouse any initial interest from me I'll send a couple pictures.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Sincerely,

The nice guy.

 

[jophil28]

There was absolutely nothing in the ad that insulted or "belittled" women. It stated that my recent experiences with dating had failed to live up to my expectations, and listed what I expect from a woman.
...

You violated her 'belief system' which holds that men are not entitled to have expectations of women - women are the only ones who are allowed to have "lists" of requirements. THey believe that it is our "job" to fulfil their whims, wishes, wants and needs.
Apparently women think that men are supposed to be grateful for any crumb of attention from women and we are supposed to accept their actions and behavior without comments or crirticism. They really believe that they are THE PRIZE and that is why you received that reply from that baitch.
What you wrote was outside her paradigm and she wrote you to try to insult you enough to get you back in line .

Did you respond fiurther ?