"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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This one goes out to all those great guys who have trouble asserting themselves as a DJ.

This chick on Craigslist got so frustrated of her "nice guy" boyfriend that she rants on and on about it.
The great thing about it is that she dishes out some great advice while doing so. Excellent insight for the aspiring DJ and a great reminder for the veterans too.

Here's the tail end of the rant, do read the rest in the link provided below.

So for the nice guys out there, my advice is this: It's great that you're nice (to an extent), but have some backbone. Don't be a spine donor all your life. When your girl is out of line, say something. Don't let her walk all over you. Occasionally, be a "bad" boy (being bad doesn't translate to abusive or criminal). Say "No" to her sometimes. Raise your voice and be heard. Say something dirty/sexy to her occasionally. Drink a few too many beers and piss out in public.
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http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/205576820.html
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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the nice guy personality has always been confusing as hell to me. it really makes sense yet it doesn't. recently i just watched a friend get pulverized literally for being a nice guy. it was his 3rd year in university and he got his first girlfriend ever. this guy has a great personality and his sense of humor is stellar. now you always here alot of guys on this forum talk about humor is key in a relationship and it is but don't mix it in with the nice guy persona.

i went on a double date with my woman and his woman a few months ago and all night my woman gushed how nice and sweet he was to her and i just rolled my eyes knowing better. she would ask him to do this and do that and like a lovesick puppydog he did it. then my woman commented she wished i did those things too and i told her thats why your still with me because i don't do everything you ask. i know when to say no. she seemed confused and i said that i give it a month or two and he will be single. and what do you know i was right.

he couldn't figure out why she dumped him. he said he did everything for her. he cried and i felt sorry for him because that was his first girlfriend but he didn't quite understand the dynamics of a relationship. it wounded him so bad that his marks suffered and he couldn't continue his degree and now he is home thinking about what went wrong. i tried telling him throughout his relationship that being a doormat and non challeging would get him dumped and he wouldn't believe....heck he still doesn't believe me. she called him the other day and asked if they could be friends and now he has hopes up that she will get beck together with him. i told him that it's not going to happen and move on but i guess you live and learn.

one question that has plagued me for ages though is...do you ever notice that when your dating a woman and she sees a guy do a nice guy thing for his girlfriend your woman will say i wish you did stuff like that for me or if your dating a girl and you do something nice for your girlfriend and her friends see that and gush ahhh thats so sweet i wish i could meet a man like him....yet when they do meet that guy they get bored and dump him?

my woman said something that stumped me the other day when we were talking about the nice guy syndrome. she said i love it when your a prick to everyone else but me....thats a turn on. women just don't make sense.
 

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Women don't know what they want, that simple. Thats someone a wise man once told me, and in my experience have found to be so true!
 

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Last paragraph was really good.

So for the nice guys out there, my advice is this: It's great that you're nice (to an extent), but have some backbone. Don't be a spine donor all your life. When your girl is out of line, say something. Don't let her walk all over you. Occasionally, be a "bad" boy (being bad doesn't translate to abusive or criminal). Say "No" to her sometimes. Raise your voice and be heard. Say something dirty/sexy to her occasionally. Drink a few too many beers and piss out in public. Smack her ass. Don't ever use the word NICE to describe things, especially sex (okay, that may be a personal pet peeve). Have an interest in at LEAST one sport (or pretend to). Drive 5-10 miles over the speed limit once in awhile. Run an old lady off the road just for kicks (yeah, I'm kidding about this one... just ride her bumper for a few miles). Be aggressive during sex. Take off those damn white socks and Jesus sandals. Grow a goatee for a few weeks. Shave your balls. Stray from your routine and shake things up.
BE A MAN FOR GOD'S SAKE... and the women will fall at your feet.
 

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i like the article but have read it before.

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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afc_2_dj said:
Women don't know what they want, that simple. Thats someone a wise man once told me, and in my experience have found to be so true!
This is true but you'd be surprised at how often a woman chooses to stay with a "bad boy" over a nice guy if only for the drama he creates. Hey, he sure as hell less boring than a nice guy.
 
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ROFL!!!!!!!!!! Wow, that rant was absolute comedy. I couldnt help but laugh.

Anyway, I also think that could be benneficial to AFCs. Def worth reading!

"that was nice"...hehe
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Too often the "nice guy" is confused with the "doormat". There is nothing wrong with being nice, friendly, funny, caring, etc. Those are all qualities I look for in a man. No way would I every want to date a jerk who'll treat me like sh1t.

It's the doormat that causes problems. That women hit the nail on the head. The ideal man has a strong backbone, regularly stands up for himself and his beliefs/ideals, and will say no to his girlfriend. That, essentially, is the "masculinity" women crave. It's not about being macho, it's about having a backbone and keeping it straight.

Take it from me: the typical doormat (often called the "nice guy") is no fun. Sure, he may be a dream for the first few weeks, but women get very tired very fast of being put up on a pedestal and adored from all angles with a doe-eyed slaveboy to take care of her every need.
 

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^ Thats right, now dont post again until posting some pics of your pvssy for us to put on a pedestal. :D
 

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from what i've been reading on this thread basically all a woman wants is a man who isn't BORING!...should i say period?!
 

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funny story: My best friend who just started seeing a chick (for a week), we were all hanging out and out of nowhere she says that he is so boring. I was like WTF. And he did nothing about it. He just took some offense to hit and said in a puppy voice, "i cant believe u think im boring". Fcvk that man, what i pvssy i said to myself. If i was ever in his position i would have just took off and left her there (they had plans to go out later that night). Dont ever let a woman put u down, have a backbone and some self respect. I hate admitting this but my friend is a pvssy/afc. I talked to him later and im like "stand up to her" and he never did. Its so sad to watch.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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