"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Couple's Counseling BS... or Beneficial for a Daddy Dom?

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If you decide to do couples therapy, may want to inform the therapist about the whole sub/dom/ living doll thing because that will probably be a crucial bit of info needed to tailor the therapy to your specific concerns, otherwise it will be a waste of time for both of you.

But I'm still doubtful your gf is fully on board with what you want.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Does counseling ever work for couples or is it absolutely pointless?
IMO counseling only works if both people are REALLY willing to change - their behavior, the dynamic, deeply ingrained routines, etc

I think this is why it fails so much....because one person thinks the other is broken and wants to change the other person. While it is true that someone may be (more) broken, what that really signifies is the need for the other partner (the one who is saying 'it's you that is broken) to learn (change) how to deal with that person so that person responds better.

then there is also the issue that both people need to be willing to be real, be self introspective, take full responsibility for what they are doing wrong, etc.

To make it work takes a lot from both people.
 

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This sounds incredibly bluepill... I realize this isn't a "redpill" forum, but it sounds like I'm asking the wrong crowd...

At the risk of falling on deaf ears, I'll clarify. When she says "you don't listen" invariably it's a rant about something petty or perhaps important to her but not important to me enough for me to have remembered the details (think toilet seat position / toilet paper roll direction). Other times it's just that I'm placing too much value on something like neighbor drama and really she just needs a vent session and not my advice (I know that kind of frustration inside and out now with TRP). Thinks like toilet seats are typically **** tests so I'm not sure therapy exercises to literally "build communication skills" are even remotely what's needed here... does that make sense or is redpill talk just greek here?
 
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This sounds incredibly bluepill... I realize this isn't a "redpill" forum, but it sounds like I'm asking the wrong crowd...

At the risk of falling on deaf ears, I'll clarify. When she says "you don't listen" invariably it's a rant about something petty or perhaps important to her but not important to me enough for me to have remembered the details (think toilet seat position / toilet paper roll direction). Other times it's just that I'm placing too much value on something like neighbor drama and really she just needs a vent session and not my advice (I know that kind of frustration inside and out now with TRP). Thinks like toilet seats are typically **** tests so I'm not sure therapy exercises to literally "build communication skills" are even remotely what's needed here... does that make sense or is redpill talk just greek here?
A toilet seat left up isn't a **** test, that's just annoying. Like if she leaves hair in the shower lol. Those are just the annoyances of sharing space with a person, but nothing major.
I can't speak for everyone here but I have seen posts where guys clarify that they are not red pill nor buy into that stuff while some guys do describe themselves as red pill, but I don't think this site is identified by the members as a red pill site, like return of kings for example. Return of Kings view woman as children that need to be trained and controlled so maybe some of the dominant advice you are looking for can be found there. Keep in mind that the members there don't actually like women so take some stuff with a grain of salt.
 

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You don't understand ****testing is about being annoying... you think I meant that the girl leaves the toilet seat up... "redpill" = Return of Kings and therefore nothing but women haters?

What are you doing here... I haven't read any responses from you (in basically every thread I've written in) that doesn't sound like blatant trolling.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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You don't understand ****testing is about being annoying... you think I meant that the girl leaves the toilet seat up... "redpill" = Return of Kings and therefore nothing but women haters?

What are you doing here... I haven't read any responses from you (in basically every thread I've written in) that doesn't sound like blatant trolling.
I meant her being annoyed by your leaving the toilet set up is not a sh*test.
I'm not trolling you, but I am reading your posts because your first posts interested me and I wanted to see how things would turn out.
Just because I don't respond in a way that encourages you trying to turn a reluctant human being with PTSD into a Stepford Wife doesn't make me a troll. Sorry but I think it's curious that you are tying to do that, I've never come across a person who wanted to do that before and use red pill tactics like an instruction manual and I guess my posts reflect that?

But if you prefer for me not to reply I won't, at the end of the day I don't really care as this doesn't affect my life so no hard feelings.
 

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Does counseling ever work for couples or is it absolutely pointless?
All about the counselor IMO. If it's a female, it hardly ever works. Female is usually wanting out, and females side with other females.

Relationships are about attraction/desire, the other stuff is secondary.
 

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Does counseling ever work for couples or is it absolutely pointless?
Its pointless because 99% of the time the same issues pop back up. A counselor cant look over you shoulders all day.

Its call incompatibility and no counselor can make you compatible.
 
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