"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Counter-intelligence thread

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OK we absolutely need to have a counterintelligence/counterespionage thread were to report any trick or game that girls learn and share among themselves.

I found out that most of the sh1t we have to deal with comes straigh from "girl power" magazines or sites.

As opener we have to see with which kind of sh1t we are dealing with in order to get the best out of it.

Here a taste, just saw this while researching by myself:

http://www.idatedthatdouche.com/2012/11/top-10-questions-to-ask-yourself-when.html

You will be surprised to realize that their "screenings" in many case are no different than ours, for example we look for IOI in the form of physical contact while they look for signs of commitment and such.

Please if you find some material post it here, we could save a lot of headaches and blue balls by knowledge.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Except a lot of their advice is fwcking batsh!t insane. That sh!t is totally unpredictable and worthless to analyze.

With that being said, I'm actually surprised at how some girls I know are actually really, really fwcking spot on in regards to the game (and how absolutely retarded some others are). One of my best female friends basically strongly, strongly encouraged me to spin plates a few months ago and told me to WAIT and SCREEN before giving anyone exclusivity. Another female friend, who is barely 17 fwcking years old, had a solid perspective on my recent one-itis and was the first to suggest that I shouldn't let myself play second fiddle to one-itis's ex.

They do many similar things - when in doubt, they withdraw a little bit and see how we respond in order to gauge our interest. They "play hard to get" and teach each other not to invest too much in one guy until he's proven himself. A one-itis I had in high school blatantly tried to be ****y & funny, no joke. She made the most ridiculous, taunting statements via text, yet in person was just a really shy, sweet type. And I also notice girls I'm dating now, they blatantly make a point of not texting back right away, not double texting, trying not to seem too available, etc. Two girls would constantly tell me about interesting, unique stuff they were doing everyday to try to show off an interesting lifestyle, just like we would.

Kinda funny.
 

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Well the first obvious analysis is our game is mainly for the short term (to get laid), whilst theirs is longer term focused (to bag a LTR / husband). Because of this difference we have no interest in the job / earnings bit. To translate two points on there "can he hold down a job" a.k.a "does he earn well?" and "does he think all women are gold diggers" a.k.a "is he already on to you because the job bit was so blatantly a factor".

Despite the inherent differences in the goal, the process is almost identical when you can see the wood for the trees.

1) Think back to the last girl who showed you a bit of interest but you weren't instantly attracted to her, but kept associating with her while you decided if you would f!*k her, you also quite liked that boost that someone was interested in you. Replace that girl with that time it was a HB9, did you dither? Did you b*ll*cks, you were all over it.... that covers "flaking".

2) Remember that time some fat/old chick started a random conversation with you, but you wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole so you were just polite whilst not really encouraging the interraction? Replace that woman with a HB9...exactly, that covers "stuck up", and depending how delusional you are also covers "confusing signals".

For some reason a lot of people come on here hoping that when it's the other way around, there is a deeper meaning to their behaviour, that there is still hope? Granted, my experience is not as vast as some but if I ever question anything I instantly swap shoes and put my ego to one side, if it still doesn't make sense only then does it come down to that batsh!t insane logic that Sageproduct refers to.
 

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I opened the link from the OP, and I can't really say that all of those attributes of a 'douchebag' are surprising. The protagonist of the list in question basically eliminated guys who had ****ty relationships, drank/smoked at lot, couldn't hold down jobs, and live with their parents. It ain't rocket science - be someone of value and women will notice. We talk about this daily here..

I actually have a female friend of mine to thank for helping me get better with game at the bars/clubs. Granted this was a while ago in my early 20s, it was sound advice. The basic gist was to be confident, and a little aggressive, eye contact, smile etc. Dare I say she could have made a post here and taught a few people a lesson or two. With that in mind, one still has to be selective as to what information they assimilate.

At the end of the day, judge actions. Pursue women who reciprocate, and have promise for something more down the road. Its easier if you bring your value to the table and let things sort out as they will. I would never try and 'change' who I am based on trying to attempt to pass their screens.
 

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sageproduct said:
They do many similar things - when in doubt, they withdraw a little bit and see how we respond in order to gauge our interest. They "play hard to get" and teach each other not to invest too much in one guy until he's proven himself. A one-itis I had in high school blatantly tried to be ****y & funny, no joke. She made the most ridiculous, taunting statements via text, yet in person was just a really shy, sweet type. And I also notice girls I'm dating now, they blatantly make a point of not texting back right away, not double texting, trying not to seem too available, etc. Two girls would constantly tell me about interesting, unique stuff they were doing everyday to try to show off an interesting lifestyle, just like we would.

Kinda funny.
Another example of females becoming more and more like males every day.

In magnetism, like poles repel.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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