Could use some advice.

Amilz

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Thanks in advance. I'm just now finding this forum so bare with me and some of my aloof actions I'm about to describe. I'm starting to realize I did a lot of things wrong.

So I met this girl online about a month and a half ago. She's 25 and in college and I'm 33 with a full time job and renting my own condo. We starting chatting online and we were hitting it off a little bit, no quick chemistry atleast not yet. I drove an hour to meet her for coffee. She is attractive, nice body but there wasn't a big connection other than the physical. After about 2 hours of talking she left and I left. Everything was cool. I like her and I wanted to see her again.

On the way home I texted her and told her she looked even better in person. She said thanks and didn't compliment me back. That kind of caught me off guard. I had never complimented a girl and she didn't return it. I thought it was rude so I kind of was tentative about asking her out again. I ended up asking her out again and we met for breakfast the next weekend. The conversation was great, she looked good, everything was good. We went to another coffee shop after to keep talking.

Fast forward. She implied none of these meetings were dates unless I actually asked her on a date. I asked her on a date and she got all excited at least that's how it seemed in her text. However, when I spoke to her on the phone she would be quick to get off or tell me she would call me back and wouldn't so I quit calling her. She texted me and basically invited herself to my place and said there we wouldn't be bothered by anyone.

We drank on the date, had a good time and went back to my place. Nothing happened, we hugged and she left. I passed out. She texted me the next day saying what a great date it was and how excited she was after. I asked her how she felt about me in a text (I know, bad idea) and she told me I should have asked her in person and that she thought I was nice, and not overbearing.

It seems like she's lukewarm towards me so I just kind of got blunt in the messages. Told her I felt the same way and left it at that. I asked her if she just wanted to hangout and she didn't get my point. She was keeping me in this in between of not saying she was interested in going on more dates or just going back to hanging out. She apologized for me getting the wrong impression and she reiterated that she told me that she was looking to make friends and go from there.

I was just dumbfounded and a little hurt. I just kept responding that I get it, we are on the same page now. She kept saying she really liked me and then I got really blunt with her and told her why did we even go on a date if your focus was to be friends. Then I went in...asked her who goes on a dating site to make friends, why am I taking you out spending money if we are just going to be friends, if we are just friends then why didn't you chip in on anything? She told me she really like me, thought about kissing me but didn't want to rush it and that she felt like a fool now. She said she was done, pleasure meeting me and goodbye.

I'm pretty embarrassed about how emotional I got. I felt like an idiot afterwards. I apologized several times over the next couple of days and she was pretty much done. She told me we could try talking again after I got back from out of town and we did. It went well but I could tell she was defensive. She reluctantly agreed to meet again, gave me the wrong address for the place we were supposed to meet and then got agitated with me for being late. There was no fixing it. We didn't have a good time and when I try to set up another meet she complains about money or time even though she'll give me times when her schedule is open and then tell me it's not fair for me to drive all that way.

I know I need to go just NC. Occasionally she contacts me but it's usually just to talk about herself.
 

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Just chalk this one up to experience and move on. She doesn't sound like nice easy company anyway. Your "high maintenance" alarms should've been going off early on with the shyt she was speaking.
When she suggested going back to yours, that was your cue to take advantage of her drunkenness.
 

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Thanks. I agree. I'm not really attracted to her personality it's mainly just physical so I'm not sure why I'm stressin about it. She suggested going to a my place before we met that night and she didn't drink much but that was still my cue to make a move. I know that if I wasn't attracted to her physically I wouldn't have thought twice about this.

Thing is I can't tell if she's still feeling me out even after my display of neediness and the argument. I didn't contact her yesterday after texting the night before and she sent me a text later that day. I responded bluntly with one word and she seemed to get cold again but it's hard tell because she only seems to want to communicate through texts.

I've asked her if she wanted to do something twice the last two weeks and she didn't accept either. Should I just be cool with her or ignore her texts altogether?
 

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Never ask a girl how she feels about you.

She should initiate that type of conversation. You've given the power to her. Also, after the second date is WAY to early for that type of conversation, and you received the "correct" response from her. As of the second date, if a girl asks you that question, you need to be non-commital. It's just too early.

Your whole second to the last paragraph was AFC. You gave all the power to her, and then became emotional about her response.

She's already Next'd you. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
 

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You fvcked up by not making any moves on her when she was at your place. When a woman is at your place she is usually only there for one thing. You guys drank and went back to your place how come you didnt make any moves? The way you played things overall made you come out as needy and you shouldn't have brought up feelings, EVER.

Spin more plates and get more options, that way you won't get attached so easily. Don't be so hard on yourself also, brush it off and move on to the next. Rejection is a part of the learning experience.
 

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^^^^^ THIS IS CORRECT

She wanted to you phuck her, and you didn't deliver the goods.

You became very AFC-like and insecure/needy.

I have a feeling she's a low quality HO - if she really LIKED YOU for who you are, she wouldn't have any problem waiting for you.

Don't be so sad - not every day a man gets dumped for not being a male slvt. I rather keep my values and principles than to let a HO rule my world.

That is excusable - but the AFC like transaction afterwards is totally burnable-at-the-stake-heretic-like.


BE well.

Exodus
 

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There was all kinds of AFC behavior but it seemed to start with you texting her on the way home telling her she looks better in person.

1) Never text her right after the first date. We have a whole thread dedicated to this where our expert DJ's all agree this is a bad idea.

2) Don't compliment her on her physical looks.

Even then, it seems like you could have salvaged the situation but followed it up with more AFC behavior.
 

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She was in your house???? You didn't do anything????

You hesitate... You masturbarte!!!
 

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She felt rejected and unattractive when you didn't try to fvck her. Once you make a hot girl feel that way, they will move on.
 

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Frogster said:
Never ask a girl how she feels about you.

She should initiate that type of conversation. You've given the power to her. Also, after the second date is WAY to early for that type of conversation, and you received the "correct" response from her. As of the second date, if a girl asks you that question, you need to be non-commital. It's just too early.

Your whole second to the last paragraph was AFC. You gave all the power to her, and then became emotional about her response.

She's already Next'd you. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
Thanks man. You are absolutely right. I know it too I guess just a part of me is so dissapointed in myself I'm trying to rationalize against the logic.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
She felt rejected and unattractive when you didn't try to fvck her. Once you make a hot girl feel that way, they will move on.
Some girls might think that is too forward. Maybe not this one but I got the impression she still liked me the next day. It was after the convo thru texts that she made it clear that she didn't.
 

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Captain- Thanks, I'll try not to be too hard on myself about it. There's not really anything I can do about this one at this point.

Partizan- Seems like a lot I need to read up on this forum. I hadn't even heard the term AFC or NC before I came here.

GotEd- Thanks too. I'm gonna quit texting this one altogether. There's no point anymore.
 

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Amilz said:
She started texting me again. Should I go NC?
No. Don't text her, call her. Gal's like this are mediocre warm but have their feelers out.

Only text gal's who you KNOW are interested. Texting means "we are both on the same page and we've established common ground."

Gal's feeling out, testing interest...you call and talk to them. Make sure women know if they text, you are man enough to ignore it and call them directly

Call her only if you want to though. If I were you, I'd be on the fence, and probably lose interest in her. But, if you do decide to pursue do not be texting back and forth "unsure" of it. Just go for it. Call her, keep it short then meet up in person.

I've learned pursuing women is an all or nothing decision. Like jumping off a high dive. You either go for it or don't. Don't play any games.
 

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Frogster said:
Never ask a girl how she feels about you.

She should initiate that type of conversation. You've given the power to her. Also, after the second date is WAY to early for that type of conversation, and you received the "correct" response from her. As of the second date, if a girl asks you that question, you need to be non-commital. It's just too early.

Your whole second to the last paragraph was AFC. You gave all the power to her, and then became emotional about her response.

She's already Next'd you. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
This^

Your insecurity and neediness was overwhelming. Like Frogster said this is the "correct" and appropriate response from her. Come read the DJ Bible and learn.
Amilz said:
She started texting me again. Should I go NC?
I would not respond. From what has already transpired I dont see a way she can find you attractive. She will be talking to you to get you free "male attention" and dates while dangling that carrot of "potential" in front of you. She doesnt find you attractive....shes using you. Dont waste your time. The only reason you want to respond is because you lack options.....spin plates.
 

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TheException said:
This^

Your insecurity and neediness was overwhelming. Like Frogster said this is the "correct" and appropriate response from her. Come read the DJ Bible and learn.

I would not respond. From what has already transpired I dont see a way she can find you attractive. She will be talking to you to get you free "male attention" and dates while dangling that carrot of "potential" in front of you. She doesnt find you attractive....shes using you. Dont waste your time. The only reason you want to respond is because you lack options.....spin plates.
She had texted me out of nowhere and I texted her earlier today. It was the same mundane how are you questions and boring responses that lead to no depth. I decided to just ask her if she felt like talking on the phone. She gave some dramatic response of how she didn't feel like being alone with herself let alone talk to somebody and asked "Maybe tomorrow?" I should have just left it alone. It's been about 12 hours and I haven't responded. It's just getting too obnoxious. I've never really dealt with a woman that has acted like this before.
 
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