"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Cougar rants about how only older men respond to her profile

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http://metachat.org/index.php/2006/03/17/older_men_younger_women_the_rant_1

I'm 32, and I state very clearly in my Lavalife profiles that I want a man between 29 and 35, and that men over 40 should save their credits as I will not be responding, yet I *daily* get at least several messages from men anywhere from 40 to 70.

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So many men feel entitled to someone significantly younger than them. There are so many guys 30-35 on Lava who say they aren't interested in anyone above the age of 27 or so. Of course this bothers me very little compared to the harassment I get — I simply move to the next profile.

Another thing that bothers me is all the times I get told by women (usually those who are older than me) that I should be dating older men. I doubt that there are many men in their early thirties who are being lectured about how they should be dating women in their forties. A man my age is considered to deserve a single woman in her twenties while I'm expected to settle for some middle-aged man in his forties who is probably divorced and has kids — or who is unmarried for excellent reasons.
Keep up that attitude, honey. Are you currently on your 3rd or 4th cat? :crackup:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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LMFAO @ the 70 year olds hittin her up.

Props to the older DJ's for paying no attention to her arrogance.

Also the women encouraging her to look for older men are only looking out for one of their own as in general older men= financial security as well as the gravy train whose money she can spend at will.
 

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some dumb Couger said:
A man my age is considered to deserve a single woman in her twenties while I'm expected to settle for some middle-aged man in his forties who is probably divorced and has kids — or who is unmarried for excellent reasons.
The 'excellent' reasons they are unmarried is that there are too many women like her running around!

:crackup:
 

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she will be 45 and alone and begging 55 year olds to go out with her.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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If I was 27...I would be going for early 20s. If I was 35...I would be going for late 20s.

That's the way it is.
 

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yeah she isnt making the true efforts to stay in shape...look at her flabby arms. no tone whatsoever.
 

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This is the conundrum women over 30 find themselves nailed with. Thier attractiveness and social standing are on the wane and have dwindled to the point of they're having to settle for less. The biggest problem lies in the realization that they aren't twenty years old and can no longer pick and choose from the masses of young bucks.


This bird in particular has not taken care of herself but still ahs the expectation of grabbing a contestant on the Bachelor.

Chick needs to snap out of her delusion. Once she realizes that only when she becomes the best person she can be can she expect to find a mate with like mentality and goals.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
This is the conundrum women over 30 find themselves nailed with. Thier attractiveness and social standing are on the wane and have dwindled to the point of they're having to settle for less. The biggest problem lies in the realization that they aren't twenty years old and can no longer pick and choose from the masses of young bucks.


This bird in particular has not taken care of herself but still ahs the expectation of grabbing a contestant on the Bachelor.

Chick needs to snap out of her delusion. Once she realizes that only when she becomes the best person she can be can she expect to find a mate with like mentality and goals.
I don't think she is getting contacted by DJs in their 40s. But she has to come with something to give the impression she is getting contacted by LOT of mature men. I would not contact her. That's for sure.
 

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This chick is not getting contacted by guys between 29 and 40, because SHE IS UGLY. It has nothing to do with her "age". You guys here are on this trip about older women not being able to get the guys they want. This is the false mentality that's seemed to infect the masses here on SoSuave. It's a large load of bullsh*t. A HOT woman is a HOT woman. And guess what guys? They come in ALL ages. I will agree that a HOT woman in her 40's might find it difficult to find guys to "committ" to her for a long-term relationship(because they don't want their woman 10 yrs later to look like a shriveled prune), but you can bet your ass she is at least out there f*cking the guys she wants. Because guys wanna tap hot women, and that also includes the HOT 45 yr old women.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I will agree that a HOT woman in her 40's might find it difficult to find guys to "committ" to her for a long-term relationship(because they don't want their woman 10 yrs later to look like a shriveled prune)
I will say this: if a woman has it together and is hot at 45, then the odds are great that she will be hot for her age ten years later.

It's the woman who's 25 and hot today... we don't know what she's going to look like over time when she has to work at it. That's why we look at their moms to get an idea.

Or the woman who is a bit heavy today, will likely be even heavier in the future.

But a woman who's already proved that she'll stay fit at an age when most have gone to pot, that's significant.

Hey, on a related note, catch this: a guy I know, Andy, was on Tyra Banks. She did a show on women and dating, and there was this 44 y.o. cougar, only goes out with younger guys. Prefers 20-somethings. Doesn't like older guys. Anyway, they set her up with Andy. He's got a good build, nice enough features. They told her he's 35, she thought he was 28. She liked him. Fact is, Andy just turned 50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYjP_BX30So&feature=related
 

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edger said:
This chick is not getting contacted by guys between 29 and 40, because SHE IS UGLY. It has nothing to do with her "age". You guys here are on this trip about older women not being able to get the guys they want. This is the false mentality that's seemed to infect the masses here on SoSuave. It's a large load of bullsh*t. A HOT woman is a HOT woman. And guess what guys? They come in ALL ages. I will agree that a HOT woman in her 40's might find it difficult to find guys to "committ" to her for a long-term relationship(because they don't want their woman 10 yrs later to look like a shriveled prune), but you can bet your ass she is at least out there f*cking the guys she wants. Because guys wanna tap hot women, and that also includes the HOT 45 yr old women.
Dude...you cannot even get women in their 20s...and you said that Spitzer's wife is hotter than the 22-year-old prostitute he phucked. And you come in here and say we are full of cr+p?

LOL.

I think you are adjusting your mentallity, because all you can get is OLD-DESPERATE women that the Primed DJs don't want.
 

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I like my women like I like my whiskey... aged 12 years and mixed up with coke.
 

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Latinoman said:
I think you are adjusting your mentallity, because all you can get is OLD-DESPERATE women that the Primed DJs don't want.
And the guru is wrong again. It is even hard to bed HOT older women with good game and good looks. Wow, the more you post, the more I see how much you actually know.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Blackmm said:
In case anyone is wondering, her profile on Lavalife is Orange Swan and here is a pic of the lovely:
http://i25.tinypic.com/34j9ni0.jpg
This one looks like a mugshot of one of those teachers who slept with a student.
http://i29.tinypic.com/msce92.jpg

Yeah, dudes are going to give up young hot pu$$y for this??
perfect. that puts an enlightening layer onto her rant. typical online fugly chick attitude, like Wyldfire posted (before her long overdue banishment) about the very same online experiences of hers.

she looks 40 at least and living in fantasy land.
 

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I wouldn't say she looks at least 40, but she definitely has no right to be picky.
 

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To be fair, she has one leg up on Heather Mills.
 

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Mr. Me said:
To be fair, she has one leg up on Heather Mills.
That took me a few seconds to understand, but ...

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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edger said:
And the guru is wrong again. It is even hard to bed HOT older women with good game and good looks.
My experience is that the hardest thing about it is getting them to go away after, but we all have our own set of issues I suppose.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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