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average looks are perfectly fine. i see average guys with pretty girls all the time. also girls have different tastes. some might think you're a 3 while others think you're a 7.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
TheAsianLoverReturns said:Looks for men are a combination of height, face, and body.
Tits, legs and ass.Iceberg said:What are looks for women a combination of? Width, feet, and hair?
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Classic excuse of the "looks matter" proponent. I've seen fat ugly guys with poor hygiene and grooming that look like they JUST got out of prison with Victoria's Secret model lookalikes. Unless they just choose not to spend all that money they have in their bank account, there must be something MUCH more important than looks to women.TheAsianLoverReturns said:Sure I want better looking women, but those were the cards I was dealt.
Exactly!vatoloco said:Tits, legs and ass.
Face is important too.
Listen we already had this discussion. Once you develop some balls, you'll be able to get women of your looks level. Right now your balls are tiny, so you have to take what you can get.Just a Shot Away said:Classic excuse of the "looks matter" proponent. I've seen fat ugly guys with poor hygiene and grooming that look like they JUST got out of prison with Victoria's Secret model lookalikes. Unless they just choose not to spend all that money they have in their bank account, there must be something MUCH more important than looks to women.
My point was that you said "looks for men are a combination of height, face, and body"....which is pretty much the exact way I look at women.TheAsianLoverReturns said:Exactly!
I don't give a f*ck about a girl's feet as long as it doesn't have corns or webbed toes.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Well, that's not really consistent with what you said. YOU said that you want better-looking women but are unable to because of the "cards [looks] you were dealt." According to this reasoning, balls don't help you get chicks...looks do.TheAsianLoverReturns said:Listen we already had this discussion. Once you develop some balls, you'll be able to get women of your looks level.
West Hollywood and Hollywood mainly, but all over the greater Los Angeles area. I've also witnessed these pairings throughout my life growing up in a small town on the central coast of California. The situations vary. The couples are out at bars, driving around town, walking holding hands on the street, etc. They do everything normal couples do. I don't know why it's such a shock to you that confidence and personality is infinitely more important to women than whether or not you're balding or you have a beer belly. Female attraction is much more profound than that of males.Name a specific example of these fat ugly smelly guys that have no money with models. Where did you see them? What was the situation?
I think you're wrong here. Looks do matter, if you have looks women will automatically be attracted to you, if you do not, with certain traits, women will still automatically be attracted to you.NeedToImprove said:... or you are just plain ugly. I just can't stand it anymore, not having a girlfriend or being overlooked alot. It's tough when you feel alone and tougher when you are 34 and you look at the mirror and you can't help but weep and admit that you are a shadow of the man you were in your 20's when you at least got looked at by women and had girlfriends (not many but at least some).
Anyone who says looks don’t matter is lying. They do, how much just varies from person to person. And saying that traits like being intelligent or capable of creating great artistic things makes you stand out is just plain wrong, when compared with physical features. ITs hard to see the beauty in yourself until you find a person who loves you and sees that beauty, i think we all need some kind of validation from the opposite sex, when there isn't any it's because something is horribly wrong.
Yes, but height is more important for women. Back in cave man days, women wanted men that could protect them and height was the most obvious indicator of fitness.Iceberg said:My point was that you said "looks for men are a combination of height, face, and body"....which is pretty much the exact way I look at women.
Not too short, not too tall, no fatties, and a cute face.
The truth of the game is that you can get women at your looks level and below. I'm a 7, so I get 7s or below. However, looks alone doesn't cut it, I need to balls to get those women.Just a Shot Away said:Well, that's not really consistent with what you said. YOU said that you want better-looking women but are unable to because of the "cards [looks] you were dealt." According to this reasoning, balls don't help you get chicks...looks do.
West Hollywood and Hollywood mainly, but all over the greater Los Angeles area. I've also witnessed these pairings throughout my life growing up in a small town on the central coast of California. The situations vary. The couples are out at bars, driving around town, walking holding hands on the street, etc. They do everything normal couples do. I don't know why it's such a shock to you that confidence and personality is infinitely more important to women than whether or not you're balding or you have a beer belly. Female attraction is much more profound than that of males.
Disagree. The preference for height is culturally induced. Women in other cultures don't put much emphasis on height. Latin women don't care, so long as he's taller than she is (the whole "papi chulo" thing). Ditto for Asian women.TheAsianLoverReturns said:Yes, but height is more important for women. Back in cave man days, women wanted men that could protect them and height was the most obvious indicator of fitness.
Women are still under the old program, taller is better. The exceptions being giants.
For me, I don't give a sh*t if she's 4'10 or 5'10, as long as she has a nice body and is cute.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
It only seems that way. The average height is different in every country.spinaroonie said:Disagree. The preference for height is culturally induced. Women in other cultures don't put much emphasis on height. Latin women don't care, so long as he's taller than she is (the whole "papi chulo" thing). Ditto for Asian women.
It's only in the West and especially the US that women seem to put so much emphasis on something as arbitrary as height. Women here are programmed from childhood to view "tall, dark, and handsome" as the ideal for masculinity.
It's ridiculous when 5'0" shorties want 6 foot+ guys. It really shouldn't matter so long as the guy is taller.
... after she moved to the US.TheAsianLoverReturns said:It only seems that way. The average height is different in every country.
My mom is from Korea, possibly the most patriarchal country in the world. She had such an admiring tone in her voice when she talked about how TALL her dad was.
Ah, so Lyle Lovett must be of the same caliber of Julia Roberts and Seal must be as good looking as Heidi Klum (despite his facial disfiguration) since you know, you can only "get women at your looks level and below."TheAsianLoverReturns said:The truth of the game is that you can get women at your looks level and below. I'm a 7, so I get 7s or below.
Ok, I never said I was tall and good-looking. I am a few inches above average height (same height as Brad Pitt so I don't worry too much about it), and the girls and gay guys volunteer the comments about my looks...not me. When I look in the mirror I do not see a good-looking guy.If you're really as tall and good looking as you say you are, then let's say you are a 9. If you had balls, you would be able to get 9s, but you don't so end up with 6s.
Yeah, you're probably right. They just prefer to give all their cash to the homeless instead of trading in that '93 Honda Accord for a Lamborghini. That's much more likely than the last 150 years of scientific research about sexual selection actually being correct.HOLLYWOOD? Get the f*ck outta here! I'll bet those short ugly fat f*cks with sh*tty clothes have an angle. Movie producer, wealthy businessman, etc. That's why those slobs are able to get 9s and 10s.
I don't want to take this thread in another direction, let me just reply to this part quickly:Just a Shot Away said:That's much more likely than the last 150 years of scientific research about sexual selection actually being correct.
No worries, my Google-challenged friend. I'll list a few sites for you to get started:Tesl said:Thanks.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.