"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Cooking DINNER with some dude's GF...

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I was teasing this girl i know about how she always cooks stuff, but never for me so finally she invites me to cook something together this weekend. She has a bf, (long distance thing i guess) who she NEVER mentions when she's around me.
I bumped into him in an awkward situation at a party, and when i asked who the guy was she said.. ohh that's my bf. He seemed like a loser. So i'm thinking dinner + some guy's gf for desert?

Should i start grabbing her ass when we're cooking or wait till after dinner to heat things up?

I'm lookin' to cook breakfast too. What do you playas think would be the best strategy?
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It might sound all domestic and not very exciting or "action" oriented in the traditional sence (i.e., athletics), but cooking together is a good way to go in many cases, It builds rapport and "comfort", it's sensual, (and, well, i just like to cook anyway.)

Hand her morsels to taste while working on the food. Dont start off by just grabbing at her ass. Kino along as you work together. Build up. Be playful. Enjoy the meal.

Pop in a movie after you both clean up the kitchen (make SURE she does a little more than her share. Assign her tasks.)

And then------- y'know what next.


I always enjoy evenings like that.

Have fun.


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Do you think it'd be a good idea to bring a bottle of whipped cream with me and tell her: that's something for later/desert ;)
 

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Do you think it'd be a good idea to bring a bottle of whipped cream with me and tell her: that's something for later/desert ;)
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Nope. Don't do that. No broad suggestions, no "nudge-nudge" stuff. Just be cool and funny and charming and pleasant, and slowly escalate. Be patient.

And then f*ck her.

Do a good job. And enjoy her.


And, for GOD'S sake don't bring up her LDR "Bubba."

When you leave, smile and be sweet, and don't mention further encounters. (Unless she ASKS, and even then, be pleasant and vaguely positive, but evasive. Let her GUESS whether you'll be back.)

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I have a double standard here. I don't like guys who try to steal other guys girlfriend. To me their playa haters (ie. your hating on the other dude cause he got a fine b!tch and you don't.) BUT, if she is the one coming on to you and wanting your d!ck. I'd give it a green light. Just don't EVER steal your friends girlfriend.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
I have a double standard here. I don't like guys who try to steal other guys girlfriend. To me it seems like playa hating. BUT, if she is the one coming on to you and wanting your d!ck. I'd give it a green light. Just don't EVER steal your friends girlfriend.


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Agreed. I won't do chicks who are seeing friends or family.

But the OP only met this dude ONCE.

Go for it, man.


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What is the best thing to do if she brings him up?

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Tell a NON-sexual story about some ex, then slide into another topic.

She's not going to bring up how everything is GREAT. She's gonna b*tch about how hard it is in a LDR. She'll sat that he's a "great" guy, and maybe even that she "loves" him. But THEN, she'll COMPLAIN about SOMETHING. It's guaranteed.

So, say something like, "Oh yeah, my good friend "Mary" had a problem like that with a boyfriend. She and I couldn't hang out as much as we would have liked, because she didn't want to upset him. He'd always get upset over it all.......So, we drifted apart.... too bad.........Aren't these asparagus spears tender and delicious?"


DON'T badmouth the BF. Try to say as little as possible about him directly.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You say a Non-Sexual story. Wouldn't you want to tell her a sexual story to put a image in her mind of you? Maybe im off topic with this question/opion...
 

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Slap her. Train her not to bring him up. :up:
Hahahaha yes, very good young one.... now seriously.

I've done this before. The trick is to appeal to her emotions not to reason. When she brings him up you can't get phased by it. You need to maintain the mood you've set the entire night. Otherwise everything you've done all night will go to waste like the flick of a light switch. Just acknowledge what she says without analyzing into it. Back of a little but then push in and remind her that she likes you a lot and keep escalating until she gives in.

You might need to "jump her" - Basically when you're close to her and looking her in the eyes, you pationately man-handle her.
Don't do this though if she's not into you, or she resists the kiss. Thats battery. Only when she wants you but theres something thats holding her back like an obligation.
 

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You say a Non-Sexual story. Wouldn't you want to tell her a sexual story to put a image in her mind of you? Maybe im off topic with this question/opion...


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NO, man. You should be already ACTING sexual around her. ALL EVENING. You've been touching her while cooking and cleaning up. You should be PROJECTING a sexual "vibe." No need to TALK about it.

you're NOT "off topic" at all. Good question.

BE sexual. DON'T TALK sexual.

That is, until the time is RIGHT, then you might want to throw in a suggestive, or dirty line. BUT NOT until you have ACTED sexually with her. And I don't mean grabbing her ass, or something like that. You want to escalate in a steady way, and once you have established some physical connection, then you can say stuff that will turn her on more.


You have to ACT, and BE, first. THEN you can talk. And you are RIGHT, dirty talk can move things along, but not if you pull it out too soon.

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NO, man. You should be already ACTING sexual around her. ALL EVENING. You've been touching her while cooking and cleaning up. You should be PROJECTING a sexual "vibe." No need to TALK about it.

you're NOT "off topic" at all. Good question.

BE sexual. DON'T TALK sexual.

That is, until the time is RIGHT, then you might want to throw in a suggestive, or dirty line. BUT NOT until you have ACTED sexually with her. And I don't mean grabbing her ass, or something like that. You want to escalate in a steady way, and once you have established some physical connection, then you can say stuff that will turn her on more.


You have to ACT, and BE, first. THEN you can talk. And you are RIGHT, dirty talk can move things along, but not if you pull it out too soon.

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Good clarification! :up:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I thought i'd update the situation:

I went over to her place. We cooked some food, ate, talked and watched a movie. She didn't mention the bf, i didn't either.
His picture was gone from the shelf.

Then we started making out on her bed. I ended up leaving the apartment at 4 am.
 

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I thought i'd update the situation:

I went over to her place. We cooked some food, ate, talked and watched a movie. She didn't mention the bf, i didn't either.
His picture was gone from the shelf.

Then we started making out on her bed. I ended up leaving the apartment at 4 am.

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Well, SH*T, man, I hope you escalated and nailed her. Tell me you did, brother.............
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No i didn't dude and I'll tell you why, this girl was playing the hard to get game the entire time. I tried breaking her frame when we started making out and she just wouldn't "let go" of herself you know? It's like she had it in her mind already that she wasn't going to fvck me tonight because then stuff might get around. She told me when i was leaving... that NO ONE can find out about this. :whistle:
So there's still potential here.

There's a lot of gossip going around about other people, she probably needs to know that she can trust me not to talk since we've never actually done anything together before this. Plus there's the issue of the bf finding out...lol i still don't know what's up with that. I mean his pictures are gone, but i never asked her about it. I don't intend on asking, but i'm a bit curious about it.

No worries though, i'm spinning plates... and she's trying to meet up with me again. I've already rejected one of her offers to hang out, maybe she'll crack next time.
 

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No i didn't dude and I'll tell you why, this girl was playing the hard to get game the entire time. I tried breaking her frame when we started making out and she just wouldn't "let go" of herself you know? It's like she had it in her mind already that she wasn't going to fvck me tonight because then stuff might get around. She told me when i was leaving... that NO ONE can find out about this. :whistle:
So there's still potential here.

There's a lot of gossip going around about other people, she probably needs to know that she can trust me not to talk since we've never actually done anything together before this. Plus there's the issue of the bf finding out...lol i still don't know what's up with that. I mean his pictures are gone, but i never asked her about it. I don't intend on asking, but i'm a bit curious about it.

No worries though, i'm spinning plates... and she's trying to meet up with me again. I've already rejected one of her offers to hang out, maybe she'll crack next time.
I would say you still have a good chance. She's very interested in you from the looks of it, just a bit hesitant. Keep flirting and DJing....you'll get her
 
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