"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Sjakapai

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Have somone actually here been a VERY VERY bad conversationlist? i mean BAD convolist? BAD convo to a Supergood conversation?

what i mean with bad is im a very quiet, they have to start the convo first, i cant think about something to say, even im trying to look around for what i can say abut.. youknow its not so intrest to talk about school huh?
as i said im quiet person.. they have to start the convo(if its people i know/people i dont know i can start the convo first) acutally im very good listner and have good eye contact with others... its just that, that my convoskillz sucks..when i reply to people im trying to say more than just 2-4 words, thinking what can i say after that word.. my settnings are very short.. not so long but short.. :/ I want to say more than just 2-6 words:/


so have somone here been a super quiet, bad convolist? to this supergoodconvo, just want to know if its some hope.. cuz i hate to replay with some dumb words.. Its just that im finding difficult to find what to say
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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jcap

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conversation is a PRACTICED skill
not an inborn skill.

I use to be a bad conversationlist

now I can hold a 3 hour conversation with a bum, which I did
the key is to keep on talking to people, notice where the conversation stalls
why does it stall
are you not listening to the other person?

The most miportant thing is

most people never really LISTEN to what the other person is saying
once you listen, you will have a lot of things to say

when you focus on yourself
you don't listen, or do you find things to say, you are focusing on yourself.
 

DJ_in_making

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jcap said:
conversation is a PRACTICED skill
not an inborn skill.
No, for some people it is actually.
 

Deadly_Ripped

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Yar, I have a friend who, from the age of four, could hold a conversation with an adult. Some people have just have it.

I am not one of those people. I still struggle with it, but I'm finally taking my conversation to the next level. I can make women comfortable, and recently I've been working on bringing sex and my sexuality more into the picture when talking. I don't exclusively talk about sex, but I definitely bring it up regularly enough that whomever I'm talking to doesn't forget I'm a man.

I've spent the past 5 years coming to this website occasionally and using what tips I've picked up. Two years after finding the website I got laid. Now, I always have a prospect and I usually have someone to hook up with.
 

fertileTurtle

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Sjakapai said:
what i mean with bad is im a very quiet, they have to start the convo first
Look into her eyes to get a feel of how she is feeling, then ask her why she is feeling that way or tell her she looks X then ask her why that is then tease her about it or sympathize if she's really down. React at her level. If she's bossy and mean, be bossy and mean back and if nice and happy, be the same way.

Try not to look away too much when you start to get nervous. You can pause for a long time and with a calm look wait for her to start talking to you.

Always be cool about it...try not to talk too fast...you will be more confident as you practice.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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fertileTurtle

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its just that, that my convoskillz sucks..when i reply to people im trying to say more than just 2-4 words, thinking what can i say after that word.. my settnings are very short.. not so long but short.. :/ I want to say more than just 2-6 words:
You don't always have to think ahead. Some times you just react to what the other person has said. Visualize an idea or situation and then try to tell a story from it. Don't worry about counting words, it's the effects and feeling you give that count.

And don't be always be afraid to fail. You may find that you will regret what you didn't try more than what you tried.
 
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