Conversation?

[Maxtro]

Conversation + Flirting = Attraction?

What I believe is screwing me up with most if not all women is how I handle conversation and not knowing how to flirt. When I talk to girls it's almost like I'm interviewing them. Which surprisingly enough is a lot better from what I used to do, which was a lack of any interaction at all. Anyways after spending some time with her and collecting random bits of information it is over, only to be repeated the next time I see her or I do the same thing with the next girl I meet. While interviewing her is better than sitting next to her in silence it doesn't do crap for me.

I am sick and tired of getting nowhere or “being friends” with girls. The only two girls that I knew liked me were twice my weight and with mental issues worse than mine! Sadly I even went out with one of them and that was the only “gf” I've had and she left me after two weeks, before we got to have sex and she was a slut There were other girls that I think have may been interested in me at one point but because of what I didn't do or say nothing every came from it.

I simply want to date and have fun with girls that I see three times a week in class. I want to be able to maintain a relationship for longer than two weeks. Being in a class with a chick and sitting next to her should be a great starter for a relationship with a chick but it's not enough, I need more, MORE!!

Is there any information or advice anywhere that tells how to build up and maintain attraction? Unfortunately with all of the information on this site I have been unable to find anything relevant. I'm afraid that if I get the phone numbers of the girls I”m interested in and if we some how end up going out, it will be the same boring conversation that we have in class and thats not going to lead anywhere.

Honestly I don't know how to play and flirt with girls. It feels so unnatural even being next to a girl. Growing up I have had very little interaction with females and if I don't get a good foundation and or practice now I will be screwed for life.

 

[KontrollerX]

"I am sick and tired of getting nowhere or “being friends” with girls. The only two girls that I knew liked me were twice my weight and with mental issues worse than mine! Sadly I even went out with one of them and that was the only “gf” I've had and she left me after two weeks, before we got to have sex and she was a slut"

Ooh, ouch.

"Is there any information or advice anywhere that tells how to build up and maintain attraction?"

Near the end of Pook's famous 15 lessons I believe he gives just the advice you're looking for.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59150

 

[Maxtro]

Heh I was reading that link from a different thread. I"m up to 8 ATM.

Hmm lots of good information. Were you perhaps talking about Lesson Thirteen? In my current state of mind that seems to be the most relevant one but I may be off.

If thirteen is what you meant then I am in trouble as the last sentence in my original post points out.

Then again it may not be what you are talking about.

 

[Maxtro]

Wow am I the only guy who can talk to girls but completely fails when it gets down to one on one?

Yes I know the thread is a little whiny but it is not without merit. It's like the general attitude on this forums is that once you get her number you can bang her all you want. Obviously some steps are missing.

 

[Jukeboxhero]

Heh, Maxtro.


Don't worry, man. I think I have the same problem. I find that I'm able to at least approach some women now. Not all of them, but I can usually at least a approach and start the mundane, boring interview type. I know I can be funny and stuff, but I can never seem to apply the C&F or think of anything to say that sounds funny or flirtatious or interesting.

Right now, I don't have many friends outside of a few small groups (one from church and one where people are all in relationships or older). So I think my first goal will to go out and start getting a base of friends that actually go out and do stuff.

So don't worry, Max. I have the same problem. If you find anything that helps you, let me know. I'm going to keep searching for stuff too.

 

[Maxtro]

Woot another reply.

Yeah I don't have many, actually any friends at the moment. The last dude I was friends with ended up using me as an alibi when he was cheating on his girl. I didn't appreciate getting phone calls and texts from her asking where he was.

As for info, I've found.
12 Rules for Attracting Flocks of Women http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall322.htm
Assumptive Questioning http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall302.htm
What I've Learned About Women http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall284.htm
How to 'Connect' When Talking to a Girl http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall274.htm
Touch Me, Stupid http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall266.htm

Well after going down the hall of fame section there is a lot of stuff. But the only way to see if the advice is applicable is to read the first sentences of each one. Somebody should organize or categorize those things. I"m not even half way down the list.

Lets just see if I can learn and internalize enough stuff over the weekend so I can put it to use on Monday.