“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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conversation opener problem!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ok this is the problem...

When going out "on the pull" for girls, i say Hi, i introduce myself, i compliment on something, but after all that my mind just freezes, and i dont know what to say afterwards?....what should i say?

(cause am not really interested in them i just want a piece of ass)

Basically i dont wanna go in deep conversation with girls, i just want her phone number, and just go ASAP. lol

please help me out'.
 

antidonjuan

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Yea I had the same problem before, I think you just need to have more experience and act calm and listen carefully what girls say, if you listen carefully, you would keep the conversation going. Mind freeze happened to me before but treat the girls like your buddies, apply some kino and make something up on the spot. No worries, you just need more experience.

I used to be very shy talking to a girl and mind freeze, but as I have conversations more often, the better I got. Bro, I am on my journey too, other advices DJs?
 

ExcelNPrevail

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Just keep talking about anything thats around you if you cant come up with something about her. For instance our hallways are always crowded and while where walking I'll say "One day were gonna start needing traffic lights."Or something of the sort. Its stupid random stuff like that that gets them laughing, and feeling like your comfortable with them. Or ask them what class they came from or what class are they going to, just to see if you can relate to them in a way. Honestly man, these high school girls they dont know sh!t, so dont worry too much on how to follow it up because if you said enought for her to be interested in you, then she'll follow the conversation back(asking you questions etc). Be calm, laught together, kino her, look her in the eye, walk ahead of her at times, oh and number close. Thats it....yea thats it. Remember there just HS Chicks.
 

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(cause am not really interested in them i just want a piece of ass)
Your problem is your mindset man. How you gonna expect to hold a conversation if you are just thinking of their ass? They can probably pick up that's all you want.

There are probably a few good coversation topics in the bible, check it. The real problem isn't really your conversation skills, it's that you are probably in your own head rather than being in the moment. Thinking "what should I say next" or making conversation while thinking about the future/past doesn't work too well. You have plenty to talk about you are just overthinking.

I know all of the above is true but I sometimes have this problem with people I don't know well or don't have a lot in common with, not just with girls but guys need. I'm working on bein in the moment more.
 

Cry For Love

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yeah as antidonjuan said, its all about experience. with experience comes the ability to develop a conversation out of nothing. there are so many places to start, and girls make it easy to expand it with their non stop babble. you can start with making a comment about their mood, ask them how its going and what their doing, point to what theyre wearing and ask how they got it etc
 

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Your trying too hard to think of something which is messing you up...your also filtering as to what you think is good to say...

This is hurting you, you might also dislike silence in a conversation which is BAD, you want to purposely create some tension through silence, it's brilliant...I made a post in my journal about it...check it out...
 

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SinJester said:
Your problem is your mindset man. How you gonna expect to hold a conversation if you are just thinking of their ass? They can probably pick up that's all you want.
Agreed. As much as some people may disagree, check out some stuff on Mystery Method and other canned material (www.bristollair.com is a start). That'll give you some openers, stuff for attraction and comfort, pretty much til the end.

But as you get more and more comfortable opening and maintaining a conversation, you should try and go for NO canned stuff and be "natural."

That's what I did... before I was totally canned, on-the-dot Mystery Method material. And sure, I got results, but switching to more natural game where you aren't using stuff other people made up is a lot more fulfilling and rewarding.

But then again, all you want is ass, so maybe MM would right down your alley.
 
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