Conversation ended up with me getting SHUT DOWN

[sknudheat]

Hey so this is convo I had with this chick. I had called her but she didnt pick up so I deleted her number and said fvck it. Randomly she texted me like 5 hours later and we had a short text convo. I asked her on a lunch date but she said she was going to Disneyland so I just said sounds awesome! Don't let Mickey grab it ass. Then this...

Me: so I need some advice from a woman with good fashion taste
Her: well I'm not good with fashion. I'm plain Jane
Me: ouch, that's something we gotta work on your gunna roll me with haha
Her: well I'm not trying to roll with anyone I like me the way I am. Sorry
Me: sent her a pics of new pants I bought
Me: pants for a meeting. Yes or no? And Don't ask me to take it off yet
Her: idk.. I don't like that
Me: suck for you haha
Her: well it was just a personal opinion
Me: okay well i gotta go check out ill call u later. Pick up when I call or u owe me a quarter
Her: dude whatever, don't bother calling bye.


Wtf happened?!

 

[badboyjmm]

In my humble opinion, you forced way too much the fact that she had to give you advice, plus you acknowledge that she didn't reply her phone. It shows that it affected you. So now, she knows she got you and I'm pretty sure she got pissed off by the pressure. This is how I see things

Me: so I need some advice from a woman with good fashion taste
(Good line I like)

Her: well I'm not good with fashion. I'm plain Jane
(translation: I dont wanna give you advice and quite frankly I
don't care)

Me: ouch, that's something we gotta work on your gunna roll me with haha
(translation: Come on girl, you can't be that bad since I wanna be with you)

Her: well I'm not trying to roll with anyone I like me the way I am. Sorry
(I'm not trying to roll with you, not interested sorry) At that point, you should have stop the conversation

Me: sent her a pics of new pants I bought
Why did you sent her the pics, she basically said that she doesn't care

Me: pants for a meeting. Yes or no? And Don't ask me to take it off yet
Be more ballsy next time and ask her out. Girls know when you use a excuse to hang out. '' Let's meet at the mall, on Thursday at 6pm and maybe you can get yourself a style, plain girl :yes:

Her: idk.. I don't like that
(translation: I told you before that I don't care about your pants or giving you advice)

Me: suck for you haha
Well it sucks for you bro that she doesn't care at all

Her: well it was just a personal opinion
Don't you understand that I DON'T CARE

Me: okay well i gotta go check out ill call u later. Pick up when I call or u owe me a quarter
(what she reads and understand: ''Well I'm irritated that you didn't pick up the phone'' Please pickup next time.

Her: dude whatever, don't bother calling bye.
Translation: Well who do you think you are ? I didn't wanna talk to you and I was getting bored so I replied to your text. You boring, just quit bugging me.

Wtf happened?!

Hope it helps

 

[SirFratserlot]

y u mad she chose to go to disneyland bro. Why would she go to your cheap ass lunch date instead.

 

[sknudheat]

In my humble opinion, you forced way too much the fact that she had to give you advice, plus you acknowledge that she didn't reply her phone. It shows that it affected you. So now, she knows she got you and I'm pretty sure she got pissed off by the pressure. This is how I see things



Hope it helps

Thank u. I really appreciate it and I'm taking this as a learning lesson. Kinda hurt my ego a bit I must admit haha. But this will happen. Can u please give me some pointers of what to say next time and what not to say. Also was this out of my hand from the start (too low interest level)? Or was it mostly out interaction? Perhaps my looks? How would YOU have played this

 

[sknudheat]

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y u mad she chose to go to disneyland bro. Why would she go to your cheap ass lunch date instead.

I was never mad. I like Disneyland too lol

 

[VladPatton]

Goddamn, man. Shot down in flames!

Here's the deal...you can't force all these game tactics on a chic, she'll see right through you and deem you as a cheese ball. The whole idea is smoothness. It has to be smooth as silk and natural. If she gets negative you gotta scale it back and exit gracefully. Don't push. They'll get mean and chew you up bad. A girl irritated doesn't hold back, and you can't let it get to that point. With time you will learn to sense when to play and when to go home. Fortunately these losses help you learn.

 

[sknudheat]

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Goddamn, man. Shot down in flames!

Here's the deal...you can't force all these game tactics on a chic, she'll see right through you and deem you as a cheese ball. The whole idea is smoothness. It has to be smooth as silk and natural. If she gets negative you gotta scale it back and exit gracefully. Don't push. They'll get mean and chew you up bad. A girl irritated doesn't hold back, and you can't let it get to that point. With time you will learn to sense when to play and when to go home. Fortunately these losses help you learn.

Absolutely. So in the future, when getting a negative response what should I do? Back up completely? Or just leave it alone till the next day. Or?..

 

[Smell The Glove]

Yea after she said she was going to Disneyland, what was your purpose for the text conversation?

After she said she was busy for the day I think you shoulda left it alone and tried another day.

Chatting about random **** is pointless if you're trying to score a date.

 

[Megaman XIV]

This was doomed when she said she was going to disneyland and didn't give you a counter offer.

 

[HighResurrection]

Yea after she said she was going to Disneyland, what was your purpose for the text conversation?

Your not trying to get fashion advice, your trying to bang them. It seems like you were forcing her to have a mindset. Also talking about her taking off your pants is like verbalizing sex with her. (Anti-Slut defense)

If she didn't make a counter offer to your date request, then move on to other women.

 

[zekko]

Here's the deal...you can't force all these game tactics on a chic, she'll see right through you and deem you as a cheese ball.

When I first started studying this seduction stuff, there would always be examples of dialogue and how to converse with a woman. Seriously, most of it would make me cringe. All of it seemed so fake, lame, forced, try hard, and like you say, completely cheesy. Not to mention horribly written. If these guys were writing dialogue for a movie they'd be laughed out of the business.

There's a place for ****y/funny and all, but guys tend to go completely over the top with it. A former poster here, Jophil (God rest his soul) used to say that things like negs and C&F should be used lightly, like seasoning sprinkled over the meal. You don't dump the whole bottle of salt on a steak at once, it ruins it. Be more natural, and talk to women like real people. Let your confidence come from a place of authenticity and not with a bunch of stereotypical cheeseball lines.

But then again, I'm not in the club looking to pick up some cheap slvt looking to fvck some douchebag who she hopes she will never see again. Maybe this stuff works well on them, I guess that's what it was designed for.

 

[Mike32ct]

Yeah I agree with the others. You "forced" game on a chick that wasn't interested.

It's a common mistake.

 

[sknudheat]

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I guess my main question is how to avoid this next time. WHY wasn't there initial attraction? I mean yes i got her number, which don't mean much, but why wasn't she interested? Was it just something as simple as physical attributes? Or was it more of an interaction thing. How would u guys have played this???

 

[TheLoner]

She sounds uninterested, she wouldn't put herself down if she was interested, she would start qualifying herself.

Anytime a girl is not interested she would put herself down or say that shes ugly, plain whatever,

if she was interested, she would not insult herself. Makes sense?

P.S. she sounds rude and arrogant anyways, why would you want to be with someone like that,
just be glad that you hit the next button.

 

[Purefilth]

You shouldve sent a picture of you wearing the pants with a big ole stiffy showing through.

Then if she likes her next message will show through.
If she dont- you had lost her already anyway - its just a "ballsy" last push.

 

[sknudheat]

You shouldve sent a picture of you wearing the pants with a big ole stiffy showing through.

Then if she likes her next message will show through.
If she dont- you had lost her already anyway - its just a "ballsy" last push.

HAHAHHAAHA good one, im starting to see that she probably just gave me the number cuz she wanted attention from somebody, somebody who she can just play with and get them to to inflate her ego. good thing that aint me.