Conversation advice

[Magnatolia]

Hi all,

I have a few issues with the conversation unless the girl approaches me (and how often does that happen in a club).

I'll see an attractive girl and say something like 'hey ladies, hows your night going?' I'm actually gonna try along the lines of 'hey ladies, whats happening?'

But then if they respond like 'good' or 'yeah not too bad' then because they haven't given me anything to work with I just fizzle out. Does this happen often to you guys, is this a lack of interest? Or is she testing me so that she doesn't have to waste time with every guy that approaches her?

There's something I want to try. Occasionally I see a girl taking her friends photos so I'm gonna offer to take the photo then if the opp comes up I'll suggest I get in the next one haha. Think I'll have to have a few drinks to do that though!

I know that conversation is less important but girls do pay attention this stuff. So yeah any advice guys? I'm not into routines or opinion openers cos I don't really want their opinion. Crazy thing is that when they approach me the conversation usually goes pretty good.

 

[The Bat]

Well, what else do you expect them to tell you besides "oh it's going good" when you ask them how their night is going? You are, after all, a complete stranger.

You don't have to follow a routine or a canned opener. I modify those techniques to my environment and target at the time. For example, if I'm in a nightclub with a live band, I usually drop in with an observation opener like, "Wow, I think I've seen this guys and they were amazing. I don't remmeber them being this bad though." She will laugh, ignore, giggle, annoy, add on, etc.

Just an idea but you get the drift.

 

[darkme_legendary]

Hi all,

I have a few issues with the conversation unless the girl approaches me (and how often does that happen in a club).

If she approaches you and then you stop having these issues then it's obvious that it's all in your head. You believe that you will have problems with the conversations when you approach and it happens because you believe it.

I'll see an attractive girl and say something like 'hey ladies, hows your night going?' I'm actually gonna try along the lines of 'hey ladies, whats happening?'

Why do you use this kind of approach "hey ladies, what's happenning" ?
Think from their perspective. What they would think automatically when you come at that with this attitude.(I don't say that is bad..I only think that it doesn't trasmit anything in the lines of: I'm interested in you I want to talk with you or I'm fun and welcome into my reality or anything that you would like to transmit)

But then if they respond like 'good' or 'yeah not too bad' then because they haven't given me anything to work with I just fizzle out. Does this happen often to you guys, is this a lack of interest? Or is she testing me so that she doesn't have to waste time with every guy that approaches her?

I think she is not testing you.(You are not even to that stage ) She is just reacting to your approach & she is passive and waiting for more, nothing special.

There's something I want to try. Occasionally I see a girl taking her friends photos so I'm gonna offer to take the photo then if the opp comes up I'll suggest I get in the next one haha.

What are the motives behind thinking of trying this thing. Is it because you like it so much to take photos with them or is because you need a "good alibi" for talking with them(or any other excuse)

Think I'll have to have a few drinks to do that though!

Liquid courage? That's nice but unnecessary. Just work on your beliefs and you will be able to do it. If you are in place where you believe that you can go and take her photos or make out or anything else..then the likely hood of that happening can be huge.

I know that conversation is less important but girls do pay attention this stuff.

This sounds like a contradiction or confusion in your head. Find out for yourself by approaching & talking with a lot of girl if it's that important or not.

So yeah any advice guys? I'm not into routines or opinion openers cos I don't really want their opinion. Crazy thing is that when they approach me the conversation usually goes pretty good.

If the conversation goes pretty good when she approaches you then it's obvious: it's a belief problem. Work on them, question your limiting beliefs & the problem will quickly leave you.