Contradicting Theories

[zekko]

Sometimes you hear people say that beautiful women don't get approached much or asked out on dates very often because guys are intimidated by them, and will instead hit on average girls instead. I last heard this while watching a Kezia Noble video.

I've never agreed with that idea. In fact, I heard this saying a lot when I was a kid, and I was rather disappointed when I grew up to find out that it was not true. In my experience, the prettiest girls get huge amounts of male attention.

In fact, there is another PUA theory that directly contradicts this idea. They tell you that when dealing with attractive women, don't tell them they are beautiful because they hear that all the time, and you should set yourself apart. If attractive women don't get approached much, how is it that guys are always telling them they are beautiful. It's a direct contradiction.

 

[Billtx49]

Men with low confidence and low SMV go for the low hanging fruit. Confident men with high SMV go for the higher branches.
If you have high SMV but no confidence, then you may be confused about this game. Same goes for low SMV with too much confidence.
An extremely horny man with enough confidence may go for any fruit he can find, but in the end, its all about a mans SMV vs confidence ratio and what he wants to do, but then great game can override all the above factors also…
btw - Did I mention confidence enough times ?
It can also override al of the above…

 

[AnthonyL]

2k16 these girls are on a different level with social media. Besides we all know not to worship looks.

 

[thatfeel]

Men with low confidence and low SMV go for the low hanging fruit. Confident men with high SMV go for the higher branches.
If you have high SMV but no confidence, then you may be confused about this game. Same goes for low SMV with too much confidence.
An extremely horny man with enough confidence may go for any fruit he can find, but in the end, its all about a mans SMV vs confidence ratio and what he wants to do, but then great game can override all the above factors also…
btw - Did I mention confidence enough times ?

This is mutually exclusive thinking and ignores the subject at OPs hand. It's true that girls in the middle upper to upper echelon in the looks department are inundated with more than adequate amounts of male attention. People, and those women themselves, can deny it all day long. But it doesn't make it less true. The mistake is in believing that the attention is completely game or approach oriented. Attractive women get the whole spectrum of attention from men. Ego stroking, favors, unwarranted pandering, etc.

 

[Billtx49]

I was talking about attention, approach, And closing, not attention by itself. If you can't close why waste your time thinking about the attention hot girls get? Doing so is just a nonproductive exercise in mental gymnastics.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Sometimes you hear people say that beautiful women don't get approached much or asked out on dates very often because guys are intimidated by them, and will instead hit on average girls instead. I last heard this while watching a Kezia Noble video.

I believe that to be a marketing con. Gorgeous girls get attention all the time, but not from a random guy walking up to them at the club.

Especially if they are halfway intelligent, decent social skills, they're going to be surrounded by high status males at work, social circles etc.

Most high status dudes that are intelligent with decent social skills will never need to do cold approaches anywhere.

As far as not telling gorgeous girls they aren't attractive, that goes along the line of seeing them as a whole person rather just a looker, which IMPLIES you are a whole person as well, and have enough EXPERIENCE to know that looks aren't enough.

As a PUA trick in and of itself, it's not particularly effect if it's something you have to REMEMBER to do.

Lots of BS and Mythology from people selling PU stuff, because most of the customers will never actually try ANY of it, so the sellers can get away with making up stuff that's not grounded in reality.

 

[Bingo-Player]

these days there is a man to worship every type of woman regardless of looks that's the way society has gone unfortunately

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

As usual we're all looking for the black and white answer, where there are actually several answers to the same question.

The top tier of women do get a lot of attention; but rarely do they get the type of attention that is gong to get them tingling with aroused desire. Social media mirrors real life perfectly. They have a bunch of no-hope 'followers' who support and compliment their banal wittering, telling them all the obvious hackneyed nonsense - men literally acting like women. Sure they approach them but will soon fold by telling them how 'amaaazing' they are in every respect, then continue in to the next decade 'talking' to them as 'freinds' about all manner of irrelevant cr@p, until they eventually feel comfortable/drunk/sexually frustrated enough to spew their real 'feels'. At which point he ultimately gets 'LJBF'.

Then they have the attention from the one real man in two hundred (if that); he runs clinical ZFG game, whether knowingly or not. He doesn't give a sh!t about her social media BS, her sporadic flirtations with other inadequate men, her am-dram lifestyle, because he has a bigger things going on in his life than her last meal/new flat/trip to the fckn shopping centre. Indeed, he doesn't even care if she ups and leaves. All the while that her dedicated followers are blindly following, 10/10 has been casually banging alpha males who treat her with the same indifference as the rest of the alpha females that he's fcking. It's not that love doesn't exist between the two of them, it's just that the alpha male know how to control the frame.

So yes, mot women above even a 5/10 get a lot of attention. But what they don't get a lot of, is the right kind of attention.

Can't remember who said it or where, that I read yesterday: telling a beautiful woman that she is so is like telling a rich man he is rich. It's stating the fcking obvious.

I was looking at this standard 5 this morning on the tube. I couldn't help it because she was sitting right opposite; she just had this 'I'm all that' kind of silent manner about her, not really looking at anyone, but glancing around in to the middle distance, like 'Look at me everyone, with my badly drawn make-up, expensive handbag and cheap clothes. She think I am checking her out, clearly a solid 3 SMV points above her, but this haughty attitude - borne primarily from too much attention from average men and tinder desperados - this attitude would implode if I had actually got up and introduced myself.

I actually find hotter girls easier to approach. They don't have this unwarranted high opinion of themselves that average girls do. They genuinely know that they are a cut above the rest but it doesn't (usually) affect your interactions with them if you treat them like you would everyone else.

Earlier in my journey to work, there was a solid 8 sat in the same seat as the standard 5. At this point I was just reading my book and genuinely absorbed. I scoped this bird when I got on, but otherwise payed her no attention. The train stopped and I look up. Eight is staring str8 at me. She acted all coy (non-verbally) for the rest of her journey, pretending I wasn't there, but still trying to check if I was looking out the corner of her eye, because she'd been caught out earlier. This is the type of bird I approach.

Women don't reject all men. They only reject men who put them up on that pedestal.

Successful men must attend to women like everyone else, but they do so in the right way. And not too much.

 

[Desdinova]

these days there is a man to worship every type of woman regardless of looks that's the way society has gone unfortunately

^^^This. All average to extremely attractive women get approached. Unless she looks like a fvcking wildebeest, men are going to be interested in her. How far the approach goes depends on the man.

 

[DiegoSantori]

Beautiful women get approached 24/7. An attractive blond woman, who's part of my circle of friends, once told me that it's sometimes "stressful" to be approached all the time. I guess, she was talking about men who have a low SMV.

 

[zekko]

Beautiful women get approached 24/7.

That matches my experience as well. As I said, I remember hearing this "the prettiest girls don't get asked out" BS all the time when I was growing up. I thought this was great, because that meant I'd be able to clean up with all the pretty girls once I came of age. It was a bitter pill to swallow to find out it wasn't true. The competition for the prettiest girls is fierce, and my SMV was pretty low when I was a young man.

There was this one girl I went out with who was exceptionally beautiful, she amazed me, because I swear to you, guys would literally run out of buildings on the street to talk to her. It was crazy. That got tiresome quick, though.

I was looking at this standard 5 this morning on the tube. I couldn't help it because she was sitting right opposite; she just had this 'I'm all that' kind of silent manner about her, not really looking at anyone, but glancing around in to the middle distance, like 'Look at me everyone, with my badly drawn make-up, expensive handbag and cheap clothes. She think I am checking her out, clearly a solid 3 SMV points above her, but this haughty attitude - borne primarily from too much attention from average men and tinder desperados - this attitude would implode if I had actually got up and introduced myself.

I actually find hotter girls easier to approach. They don't have this unwarranted high opinion of themselves that average girls do. They genuinely know that they are a cut above the rest but it doesn't (usually) affect your interactions with them if you treat them like you would everyone else..

This is what I've always said about confidence. Your "5" is putting up a front, like guys put on swagger. She is probably trying to look confident. A guy (or girl) who tries to look confident but isn't will over-exaggerate.

Meanwhile, someone who is genuinely confident doesn't need to put on any swagger, they are comfortable with themselves as they are, and will just behave in a natural and relaxed manner. Which of course makes them easier to talk to.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

This is what I've always said about confidence. Your "5" is putting up a front, like guys put on swagger. She is probably trying to look confident. A guy (or girl) who tries to look confident but isn't will over-exaggerate.

It's true. I kind of feel sorry for these people; they've basically been conned to con themselves. It's not that they're not worthy; but they are completely duped in to being anything other than themselves. You see it everywhere, even with some hotter birds as well. Rather than self-improvement, emphasis is placed on self-aggrandisement. Tragic to see really.

 

[snowfall]

From what I've witnessed, outgoing butterfaces receive the most male attention. Pretty and reserved... nada.

 

[BrainDamage92]

The way I see it Im handsome, cool and humble so why go for the ugly girls