"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Contact from ex oneitis

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Well I've been home now for over a month and my Ex Oneitis contacts m e on a regular basis via MSN. When she knew I was in Hfx still, she would rarely make contact but now that she knows I'm over here, she is constantly initiating contact.

I never make contact anymore. I let her know that I was planning a trip back to Hfx in March for my bday and that we should get together one night. She agreed and joked that I just wanted sexy time. I shot back that I'm coming for 4 days and I'm only spending one day with her to let her know her rank in the scheme of things.

Another day she tried saying that she could get me back if she wanted, but I blatantly let her know that I wouldn't take her back. To stress the point, I let her know that I'd take back my previous ex over her which is true. I know that she could never give me what I want from her and would only be doing so to play a game.

Yesterday she made a comment about how she heard a joke on Nip & Tuck and it reminded her of me "feel like im trying to sell semen at a wh0re house", she kinda knows I've been around the block before we were together but never really asked for obvious reasons.

Today she asked me what I thought her best quality is and I reply her tats, this was after she said she was frustrated with me cuz I never give her a straight answer. After giving her my real reply she states that my best quality was "my lack of jealousy" "which stems from my self confidence". I was actually suprised by this because I knew she was txting another guy, snooped on her phone and also came across some MSN chat logs. I never let on about the MSN logs but I did call her out on the txts and I proved that I was right. This was after it was over and I forced her to admit she was doing it.

I've got no idea why I'm posting this, other than to get some insight on ex's and their need for validation.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I dont see much benefit to keeping contact with an ex. You cannot be legitimate FRIENDS. All you are doing is rubbing salt into each other's wounds. With only covert communication BATTLES, I choose to close the door and move foward.
 

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guru1000 said:
I dont see much benefit to keeping contact with an ex. You cannot be legitimate FRIENDS. All you are doing is rubbing salt into each other's wounds. With only covert communication BATTLES, I choose to close the door and move foward.
I heard that, guru.

I loved my ex, was loyal, did everything in my power to give and share and keep her satisfied.

She told me I was family, more family than her family.

When she left me abruptly, a year ago, she said it was her, not me, that her most pressing concern was how it would affect me.

CUT TO:

TWO WEEKS AGO.
Phone conversation.
Me: mostly AFC, kind, giving, expansive.
Her: disdainful, contemptuous, cold, vindictive, blaming, poisonous.

What basis does she have for being like this to me:
ABSOLUTELY NONE.

My attitude now: I will not have anything to do with her....period.
 

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That's very true, great wording: COVERT BATTLES, that's exactly what it feels like, I wish it weren't true but it is, good calling guru1000
 

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guru1000 said:
I dont see much benefit to keeping contact with an ex. You cannot be legitimate FRIENDS. All you are doing is rubbing salt into each other's wounds. With only covert communication BATTLES, I choose to close the door and move foward.
Ahh ! The covert battles - the ones that do not appear to have any clear subjects of conflict. The ones where you snipe and deride and play " the positionalism game. " - ego collisions - power contests in which each attempts to land the knockout blow but pretends that you are not.

This is a sure sign of a relationship in decay. Time to next her.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Mac, she wants something! When a woman contacts a man it means that she wants something! But it is NOT about what she wants - it is about what you want!!! Dig?
 

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she isnt looking for validation, she's looking for drama. you're her drama tampon because when she feels like playing games your right there to engage with her.
 

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Never root through the garbage once you've dragged the can to the curb. You get dirty, your neighbors see you do it and you rarely find what you thought was worth looking for.
 

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Although it is tempting to the EGO to try and play games with an EX who contacts you, I'd suggest you stay away from her. She'll draw you into the bottomless pit of despair which is hard to get out of.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I dealt with this for a long time before I finally woke up.

The questions is just her validating herself - she wants the best of both worlds, and you, by talking to her on Chat, taking her calls and agreeing to meet her are just bowing down to her greater power. She knows she has you at her beck and call. You still have outstanding feelings/issues with her, and thats why you are allowing this contact to continue.


Unless you are getting something from her that you want (sex....) then you should not continue to validate her (and no matter what you think or think your saying to her, you are validating her by continuing to communicate with her).


You need to cut of contact, and stop taking her calls.

You are the prize remember.
 

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I think one thing that I didn't make clear in my intial post is that we are over 1000 miles apart so getting sucked in isn't a reality. I've got no interest in having her be my g/f again. In the link in the OP about my Ex, I clearly stated that I had a visit with her that ended the relationship on my terms.

The reason I don't completely cut her out is because I see value in keeping her around in the future as a friend. She's currently in Med School and I'm her real first adult love, so I just see potential benefits of having a DR in my pocket down the road. However in the short term, its about getting a piece of tail once or twice a year when I go visit my buddies back in her province.

I agree with the covert battles. I feel like were constantly engaged in a covert battle. I think she's gotten bored and misses male company as well. In the months before I left and we were broken up we would occassionally get together but not on a regular basis. However last summer she had a couple of branches that she kept on the outside and I think they've since broken as well. So my gut tells me that she's feeling the effects of not having any branches and therefore reaching out to me.

Because of her school commitments & lifestyle, its hard for her to get new branches. However I also think she was taken by my line about not taking her back, and I think she might actually might try covertly to try just to see if she can do it.
 

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she's looking for validation, but so are you.
 
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