Conidence again

[zekko]

Okay, I still get confused on this confidence thing. Why is it that women are so obsessed and fascinated with confidence anyway? I see that a man has to have confidence, otherwise the woman is stuck asking the guy out, prodding him to kiss her, leading him along, etc, and frankly they just don't want to put in all that work. A man who is competent will be confident, yeah, but I don't see why that should be such a huge turn on.

Just what is confidence exactly, and how does a woman "see" it? I know you should have a good posture and make eye contact. But I see some people on here talk about putting on a swagger and such. It seems to me that if a man were TRULY confident, he would just be very relaxed and natural, and not putting on this swagger, because isn't this a sort of false front confidence?

Or is this over the top type of confidence really what women want? Even though a truly more confident person wouldn't even bother to act like that. Sometimes I'm not sure if I should ACT confident or just BE confident, you know what I'm saying?

 

[Ambition Now]

Women are attracted to confidence because it shows you know what you are doing, it shows you know how to get what you want in your life and also shows that you are able to lead them on.

I agree, if you are confident you should be natural and relaxed, but girls nowadays are so dumb that they follow any idiot who cant barely whipe his own as* but is able to fake some confidence.

 

[zekko]

I agree, if you are confident you should be natural and relaxed, but girls nowadays are so dumb that they follow any idiot who cant barely whipe his own as* but is able to fake some confidence.

Hmm, well that's a good way to put it I guess.

I remember when I was in high school, there was a friend of mine who was good with the ladies. It used to amaze me that he would tell the most outrageous lies to the girls to impress them, AND THEY WOULD BELIEVE HIM! Classic case of girls going for the jerk, I guess.
Maybe that's one reason why when women get older they gravitate more toward the nice guy, because by that time they can see right through the jerk's BS.

 

[moneyisking]

I don't care much about how confidence enters womens' mind and psychology what not. All I know is: see that chick over there with round azz, big tits and 10/10 cute face? That chick turns me on. I guess it goes same with girls when they see confident guy; b/c after all, for men looks don't matter, it's the personality.

 

[Ice882]

total mindset shift required, OP.

 

[zekko]

total mindset shift required, OP.

Howso? Could you be more specific?

 

[Ice882]

Howso? Could you be more specific?

Real confidence is something that you must have to succeed in all areas of life. It is your substance. It is what makes you capable of taking risks, accepting failure, accepting success, and what allows you to feel fulfilled, because you know YOU were responsible for your success.

The "front" confidence you spoke of is a tool--not an innate trait like real confidence. It gets you noticed, and lets girls know that you have the real confidence that is so important. "front" confidence is basically ****iness; as in C+F? The tool that is talked about so frequently on this site.

I haven't explained everything fully, but this is at least one of the important things you must realize about confidence.