"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Confusing girl at the club

viking22

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Not getting many responses so thought I'd summarise the post.

Basically went out to a club, my friend opened a mixed set and one of the girls in the set wants to talk to me and is teasing me and I play along. A few minutes later she disappears with her friend so I think I've blown it. Later that evening I bump into her in the VIP area of the club (there is a Scandinavian party). She rushes over to me all touchy feely and I suggest we get some fresh air as I want to get her away from her friend. She agrees and I put out my hand she takes it and we go outside. We chat for a few minutes and I go for a kiss but she turns her head and says she has to find her friend but grabs my hand and takes me with her. Her friend is being chatted up by a couple of guys I say hi to her friend and the guys and chat to the girl but again she disappears with her friend.

Later on im taking a breather on the sofa and she comes and sits next to me with her friend. She pretends not to notice me but then turns around sees me and smiles. I chat to her for a few minutes and get the number. She disappears again. I have to leave early so I go over to where she is chatting with her friend and a couple of other swedish girls and say goodbye.

I text her the next afternoon and ive yet to hear anything back.

I'm guessing she is just playing games, but ive never had that happen in a club. Usually if a girl leaves during a conversation she'll avoid me for the rest of the evening. Certainly not open me every time she sees me. But I guess i didn't create enough attraction for her to want to ditch her friend and hang out with me in the club so we didn't spend enough time together for her to want to see me again.
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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viking22

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Hmm over a day since i texted her and no reply.

Is it worth trying a call in a few days?
 

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You should let this one go. Clubbing isn't necessarily an absolute when it comes to creating a single target but it can however create a pool of options for you. Don't count on any girls to bite at the chomp to get at you afterward but if you meet and greet enough of them then it's likely at few will get into contact.

My advice, don't do anything else to reach out to this one. Go back to the club and meet some more girls. It's likely you'll see her again, but you should not go through any great links to pursue her even if you do. You have to create value for yourself in her mind and by seeming disposed and having other options she'll be faced with the proposition of chasing you, which is the position you want to be in.
 

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viking22 said:
Hmm over a day since i texted her and no reply.

Is it worth trying a call in a few days?
No. She was simply playing you for a fool. Want revenge? Go back to that club and tongue a hottie in front of her ass.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Just joined his forum...I may be in the minority here, but I see where Jack Prescott is coming from and I enjoy his comments. Thanks Jack! And in the spirit of this current thread I have allowed myself to be played like a second hand violin in clubs by ****** up women. My fault for sure, but what pisses me off is how women never EVER want to take responsibility for anything in the dating game that may go south. So Viking22, if this little dreamer has contacted you back she is on to the next victim. Cut your perceived losses and look for greener pastures.
 

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viking22 said:
Hmm over a day since i texted her and no reply.

Is it worth trying a call in a few days?

No.
 

viking22

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Yeah thanks for the advice guys. I've deleted the number and pumped up to get some more solid numbers.

Its partly my fault because I don't give off that predatory vibe in clubs so girls do not feel threatened by me so know that they can string me along without any consequences.

I should have realised that if she was really interested she would have stuck around rather than disappearing with her friend (no doubt to laugh at me) five minutes into each interaction we had.
 

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Getting numbers from club girls is usually a waste of time, because after they've left the highs of the club environment, drunk and likely well fvcked by some guy that night, you'll be forgotten the next morning. You either close there, escalating as far as you can, or you next her. That girl you met is a typical ADHD club girl who's always running after bigger shinier things. Unless you have the biggest, shiniest thing that she couldn't possibly forget and desperately want (and in that case, you'd be f-closing her that night anyway), don't bother with the number close because she will flake on you. You're dealing with her club persona, which is a flaky attention wh0re. If you want to number close, do it in daytime or in another environment that's not a night club.
 
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