confused?

[el torro]

ok guys could someone please clear up some confusion for me?
ive been reading some tips and came across two that both sound good but contridict eachother

in the blue corner: tip by JC Jerkson

" Don't go out with intentions of getting laid.
If you do this it will fvck with your internal state and you'll get approach anxiety. Instead, just go out to have fun.

Go out to talk to a ton of people to improve your skillset (conversation skills). The lays will follow.

It's fvcked up how this shyt works. When you try to get laid you don't but when you don't try you do. LOL.


JC Jerkson"

this tip seems to work because everytime i go out without intentions something has happend.

but

in the red corner: the gunwitch method found in the DJ bible under speed seduction.

"The first understanding you must have, is what I mean when I refer to a "state". I simply mean your state of mind, the feelings in your body, and the overall YOU at any given moment. Can you recall a time, the last time that you were totally HOT and HORNY for a woman - to the point you had an erection, felt slight pain in your stomach, how you looked at her, and how you were thinking at the moment. What did that feel like? You were in "sexual state" at that point."

this also seems good in theory

so in my opinion (unless ive totaly missed the meanings here, in which i would like someone to point them out to me) how can you try to go out without intention of sex but as soon as you see a woman try to bring yourself to a "sexual state"? wouldnt that show desperation and isnt that suppose to be BAD!?

if you havent already looked at the gunwitch method please do so and let us know what you think about these two theories.

cheers, all comments welcome

 

[flexion_]

Ever go to grocery store hungry?

Thats the sex vibe you will give off if you go out with the intention of getting laid.

Being in sexual state isn't going out with the intent of having sex. The sexual state will be there regardless of your date.

 

[organizedconfusion]

going out with any type of agenda usuaslly screws things
up for me because i am soo preoccupied with the outcome
and the natural process gets screwed up.It also creates alot more
pressure then if i were to just out to have fun with the notion
of meeting some new people/socializing.


i have to aggree with gunwitch..
HE GETS IT.
he's explaining sexual communication AT IT'S BEST.
have you ever noticed when you are in a really upbeat mood-
everyone seems more inviting and happy and upbeat also,
and you seem to attract people that are in a good mood
and it kinda rubs off on people and the energy magnifies?

how about when you are in a horrid mood and nothing seems
to go right.

what he's explaining is emotions are contagious,
people will mirror your moods body language
instantaniouslly and sub-conciously.
plus woman are highly receptive to emotions more so then men,
they are emotional beings by nature.


if you put yourself in a highly sexual state you are more likely to SUB-CONCIOUSLY ATTRACT girls instantaniouslly and it puts you in a total state of congruence.Plus they will mirror you,
whatever you feel they will feel and the emotions
pass back and forth like an energy ball.
people automatcilly mimic eachother and sense similarities
and differences in a fraction of a second within meeting someone.
notice when you go into a club and look around, what you
are doing is sub-conciouslly sizing people up.
when a chick sizes you up if you are in "the state" ...
guess what happens.
have you ever just sensed a girl that would be good in bed,
a b*tch or a sweetheart? it's on the same type of level of
communication.

it's kinda hard to explain but he does a pretty good job at
how to get into the state.

i am the master at "the state" -unfortunantly i am an a$$hole

 

[el torro]

so is it best to go out without the intention of sex so you dont come across as desperate and needy, yet when something happens and a girl approaches you, you then develop the sexual state during the interaction with the girl as it progresses?

this is the only way i can imagin the two theories working together.

i still dont feel convinced.

 

[el torro]

thanks "organizedconfusion" i know what you mean when you talk about two people both "sensing" each other feeling really horny its starting to make sense,

its hard to explain but the intention is bad because of the feeling of hoping you might get lucky and actually looking for somthing (desperation) whereas "the state" is like your little sex mode switch that turns you into a smooth motherfvcker

it seems intention is the vibe you give off to everyone, and "the state" is the emotion that can be mirrored by someone on a one2one basis

this stuff seriously fvcks with your head!!

please keep the views/ideas coming

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by el torro
so is it best to go out without the intention of sex so you dont come across as desperate and needy, yet when something happens and a girl approaches you, you then develop the sexual state during the interaction with the girl as it progresses?

this is the only way i can imagin the two theories working together.

i still dont feel convinced.

are you naturally sexually aware?

during an interaction with a girl do you usually become easily
sexually aroused?

if not i highly suggest you make friends with a girl.
have conversations alone with her and do the following-

hold strong eye contact for the entire conversation
breath slower then you normally would
look at her lips ,neck,hair occasionally while talking to her
non-chalantly look at her chest ,her pelvis area,her stomach
talk about anything. just do the above.
note how you feel

even if you aren't sexually aware chances are if you turn
her on, the energy will be mirrored in you and you will become
aroused. she may ,may not totally understand whats going on,and there may be no direct verbal acknowledgement of the situation but the feelings explain themselves.
kinda sense if she's feeling comfortable and going with it
or if she's shifty and uncomfortable.But if you can tell
she's into it and you DO feel attraction and aroused sexually..


THAT is the "state" and THAT is the feeling being conveyed.
once you become completly sexually aware ,at any given
moment at any given time it comes and goes instantaniously
and automatically without a concious thought or even trying
when you have interactions with a girl you are attracted to.
you could even conciously "condition" yourself to have this
feeling on a conistant basis.

You don't hear about these types of techniques because it's a tool in seduction-NOT pick up. seduction is more subtle but in my opinion more intense then pick up, the real don juans and casanovas were horribly successfull with woman without DYD RSD or anything SD of D's to help them out.
they "just knew" what to do-but then again they were"stories".


Mystery/TD/DD diss on seduction because i partially
think that they do not fully understand the concept of it
and that for most men it would be hard to market the idea
of it to. because the sexual signals are transfered
back and forth on a totally different level of frequences
then verval communication- alot of people don't even freakin' see whats right in front of their eyes while it's happening!

and if you STILL don't get it, go watch someone thats
really good with girls and just watch them interact.
how they move ,act, everything and then note
how the girls respond.
ALL GUYS THAT ARE NATUALLY GOOD WITH WOMAN ARE
SEXUALLY AWARE.


you know the guys where they can walk in and out of
any situation and aways leave with a chick almost magicly?
and you are like..
how the **** does he do it?!

well, now you know. it's not what he says of does it's
who he is. Being sexually aware gets you girls.
it has and always will from the beggining of time.