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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Ok so the quick run down, met a girl three days ago off FB. Exchanged numbers, got together the same day at the end of her work shift for a quick meet to say hello.

Hello turned into a few conversations, that turned into flirtatious touching, that turned into a hot make out/touchy-feely session (all in my car mind you in a span of an hour and half)

Today (two days later) she calls and says "so i realized after that night that i'm not completely over my ex bf and it's something i need to work out on my own, wouldn't be fair for the both of us to start dating right now" so i'm like "that's fine i understand, you go do what you need to do." She thanks me for being understanding, i say yeah no problem but if you're ever my waitress i expect a discount! she laughs couple more jokes and phone call ends.

Now, when we were hanging out (before the kissing/touching ensued) she did mention her ex and that she'd only been single for a month so it wasn't anything out of the blue. I'm not heart-broken over this, i'm just confused because we only hung out once and she assumed we were going to "date" when honestly i didn't even consider that hah.

just curious if you guys think this is a legitimate reason on her part to "end it" so soon in a sense or just an excuse out? which if the latter i wouldn't entirely understand why, i know i wasn't AFC or anything to turn her off. I wasn't needy/desperate or anything by calling/texting after that night.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
I think its pretty legit. Be glad you didn't become the rebound. Now if she goes out and bangs another guy, you know it was an excuse.
Haha true. Just threw me off a bit because I've never had a girl that i was just seeing here and there be so formal about "ending things"
 

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I probably would have countered with a "hey slow down, we are just hanging out and having fun, right? So let's just do that." I probably would have took it as a **** test until she repeated it again. :shrug:
 

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Warrior74 said:
I probably would have countered with a "hey slow down, we are just hanging out and having fun, right? So let's just do that." I probably would have took it as a **** test until she repeated it again. :shrug:
Funny you say that because my instant gut feeling was "is this some sort of test?" and i was going to follow up my original response with "i'm not trying to marry you here, it's all in the fun of the moment"

But i think i just didn't care that much. Still left me confused though.
 

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tryst type said:
"so i realized after that night that i'm not completely over my ex bf and it's something i need to work out on my own, wouldn't be fair for the both of us to start dating right now"
The fact that she called you and had the courage to tell you this alone sets her apart from the average girl. Now, I agree with Warrior74; I would have put my hand on her shoulder and tell her we're just friends or say " woah, who said we're dating. Slow down, killah" in a playful way when she said it wouldn't be fair that you two start dating.

I'll give you a B+ for handling the way you did. You kept your composure and didn't get all needy or insecure. Good job.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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