"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I think im gonna stop with the drinks on first dates, cuz these girls i meet get drunk off of 2 drinks (with a few exceptions). They seem a lil resereved at first, not opening up too much, and then after the drinks they become alot warmer and flirty etc etc. ok now thats just obvious. alcohol relaxes us all.

But my question is, doesn't alcohol make u tell truth, or act how u r feelin inside? I mean a few times recently ive had drinks with girls and they get super flrity with me, touch me alot, ask me tons of questions and stuff. I just get the vie they r interested. Like last thurs which i already posted about, the girl was touchign me, all flrity and then invitedme to her place. I couldnt go for a very good reason. But anyway now i tried callin twice since her and she hasnt returned my calls. The first call she replied with a text, not very friendly. Now i called her again a couple days later and she didnt return my call.

I dont get it? She wasnt a ho at all, so she wanst just horny was she?
Im baffled by this.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Take it from an expert (on drinking)

I have my first beer when I was three, and have been drinking ever since:up: Two drinks, depending on ethnicity, body size, gender, maturity can be enough to get someone drunk. Not just buzzed, but drunk. For me that would take about twenty (kills my wallet to go out drinking).

The girl doesn't want to call you because she is having regrets. As you say, she is anything but a $lut or a wh*re, so the way she acted is way outside you comfort zone. When she woke up the next morning with a hangover, and remembered the way she acted, her ASD kicked into over drive.

Basically, get her to be more comfortable with you, and she'll probably act very flirty without the booze. She just has to be comfortable, and also believe that acting that way with you will not present her as a $lut to her friends. To a girl, reputation is everything.

I had a similar experience in college, hooked up with a girl at a frat party, had some fun. When I tried to get in touch with her a couple days later, I got the VERY cold shoulder. It was something of an eye opener for me.


-E.Nigma

A little addition- Teflon Mcgee really answered it, but I wanted to expand on it a little. At any given time, there are things that we want to do or say, that we hold back on. For example, I don't curse when I'm at work, or in any formal environment, but sometimes, I want to. Acohol does make people alot more truthful, but it is not a "truth" serum per say. I would actually love to try out sodium pentathol, that drug works by inhibiting the part of your brain responsible for creativity. So since you can't make up things, you can only draw on actual memories to answer.

Bottom line, Alcohol makes people more truthful because it dumbs them down, eliminates alot of the inhibitions, and anxiety that hold us back. At the same time, because of this people are prone to do some dumb $hit.
 
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DJinTraining06 said:
But my question is, doesn't alcohol make u tell truth, or act how u r feelin inside?
NO! It makes you drunk. That's it. Drunk people act without thought. It has nothing to do with how they really feel or whats really inside.

Anyway, booze is a crutch for your game weather your drunk or getting her drunk. Stay away and learn the game for real.
 

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It doesnt make you show how you feel, it removes inhibition. This is NOT the same thing. If a girl is a bit flirty, then when drunk she will flirt with anyone! It doesnt mean she likes you
 

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I think drinks for a first date is one of if not the best date ideas !!
Not drunk, but a bit merry. It relaxes both people and helps conversation flow. Whats not to like about that?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I don't know why you want stop with drinks because of this...how about banging them on the 1st date? hmm, just a thought.
 

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Alcohol is not some "truth serum" like some people are talking about (I think there was another thread on this recently). The right amount of it can make you less inhibited and be more open, but enough of it can make you do sh*t you'd never do, and not even remember it.
 

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Zero Hero said:
I don't know why you want stop with drinks because of this...how about banging them on the 1st date? hmm, just a thought.
Immediate gratification over longterm rewards?

That plus, you get her wasted and f*ck the $hit out of her. Next morning she wakes up, has a headache, doesn't remember a thing, but does know that her damn @$$hole hurts :yes: (Never had this happen to me personally, but it does happened quite a bit) What do you do it she decides, "OH NO, you raped me!"--Not worth the risk :nono:

Better to get them more comfortable and then have them again, and again, and again . . .


-E.Nigma
 

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Zero Hero said:
I don't know why you want stop with drinks because of this...how about banging them on the 1st date? hmm, just a thought.

No my point was that then i go home not knowing if she likes me for real or if it was just the booze. In this case it turns out she doesnt like me. Cuz she has not responded to my calls. And i waited 2 days before even callin her.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do you get attached easily or something? I mean, the majority of first dates the girl is good for fvcking but not much else...it sounds like you want to turn every date into a LTR. People who don't like each other fvck all the time.
 

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I've had 3 drunk ONS's from being at a bar this year.

1st one - she called me a few days later, we went on one date and then she blew me off. Too bad she was hot.

2nd - I didnt like her, she tried to get with me again..I wanted no parts of it and that was that. I blew her off.


3rd - I call her 2 days later, she invites me to her house and we do it all over again. Not sure whats going to happen next..... it was 3 days ago.

Still not sure what to think about alcohol...:rolleyes:
 

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Zero Hero said:
Do you get attached easily or something? I mean, the majority of first dates the girl is good for fvcking but not much else...it sounds like you want to turn every date into a LTR. People who don't like each other fvck all the time.

No I wopuld be happy just fvcking her once. But i dont get why she doesnt wanna see me again to fvuck,since it never happeneed the first time. She was obviously attracted to me enuff to want me to bang her. Was that just cuz she was horny and i was there? Does actually setting something up to meet me makeit out of the question? Im just so upset bout not gettin to sleep with her she was soooooooooooooooo hot. Situations like that dont come that opften to me. Dammit. I just wonder if i did somethin to turn her off or if she just was horny and she sees no pt making aplan to meet me again, cuz im sure the next guy would do her.
 

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DJinTraining06 said:
I think im gonna stop with the drinks on first dates, cuz these girls i meet get drunk off of 2 drinks (with a few exceptions). They seem a lil resereved at first, not opening up too much, and then after the drinks they become alot warmer and flirty etc etc. ok now thats just obvious. alcohol relaxes us all.
From a game perspective, its better practice to not drink on 'dates'.

If the girl is interested and starting to experience emotion with you, she will revert to alcohol to remove her inhibitions if you aren't leading properly. This is where kino escalation, thats mirrored kino not just touching, is so important. You lead the interaction, allow her to do what she wanted to anyway (get her hands on you), without the alcohol. If you don't, she will turn to something else to give her the ability.

DJinTraining06 said:
Like last thurs which i already posted about, the girl was touchign me, all flrity and then invitedme to her place. I couldnt go for a very good reason. But anyway now i tried callin twice since her and she hasnt returned my calls. The first call she replied with a text, not very friendly. Now i called her again a couple days later and she didnt return my call.

I dont get it? She wasnt a ho at all, so she wanst just horny was she?
Im baffled by this.
Why do you say she wasn't a ho? What do you consider a ho?

Basically she was turned on by you, for whatever reason, and wanted to get ****ed. She gave you all the signals, green lights, and painted a goddamn arrow on the ground by inviting you to her place and you rejected her.

So now she either hates you for rejecting her, or thinks your a complete ***** for not taking her.

Sounds like you did well with her in the beginning. You had the skills to get her attracted and aroused. But honestly, women don't respect you for playing the nice guy when it comes to sex.

Write her off and find another, because there is little chance you can salvage it.
 
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