"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

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Ok guys need your advice.

Here is some background information. 3 and half years ago, I met this girl at a religious convention in Chicago. She happens to be from the same city as me (in Texas). At the convention, I became cool with her younger brother and cousins. I was 27 at the time and she was about 19. I barely talked to her during the convention but I sense her interest in me. I spend more time talking to other girls and only talk to her on a friendly basis.

So tonight I run into her at a local bar and talk to her (first time we have talked since the convention). She is now much more attractive and older (22). She is very receptive and flirty (she just arrived at the bar so has not drank yet). I talk to her for a few minutes and catch up. She is in town for the holidays for another 10 days or so as she attends school in NY. I end up getting her number and she is down to hang out before she leaves back for school. She is very eager to give her number to me. She easily remembered my named and was suprised I remembered hers! I end up leaving within 10 minutes of conversating with her at the bar to hit up a dance club. I feel I confidently handled the situation.

She later arrives at the same club near the end of the night and we end up dancing. We are flirting and she says I see you as a brother. This takes me by surprise based on how we were flirting, dancing, interacting,etc. throughout the night. She says since I'm cool with her brothers/cousins that she see me as similar to them. At this point she is drunk of her a**. So I say ok thats cool and she walks off. I did not get to say what was on my mind at that point in time.

Upon leaving the club, I call her (by this time I am drunk) and leave her a message saying its cool you see me as a brother have a nice life/take care/nice knowing you. Obviously I was upset and probably should not have said this. As I am about to delete her number from my phone I get a call back from her. She says who is this, and I tell her my name and ask did you get my voice mail. She says no I do not listen to voicemails. I then proceed to tell her that I do not understand why she sees me as a brother when we have barely talked at the convention years ago and we seemed to hit it off very well tonight. She immediately says we should hang out on new years night and asks what my plans are. I say I have no plans and want to stay home. She insists we should hang out and I say I'll think about it. She is practially begging me to hang out with her for new years. We end the conversation with her saying she will call me tomorrow.

I am not sure if she is really interested in me or actually heard my voice mail and felt some kind of pity and is trying to salvage the friendship or if she is actually interested.

I obviously want to make the most of it but would like to hear your opinions/analysis on this situation or on how to proceed. I will call her tomorrow at some point if she does not call me to find out if she wants to do something with me for new years since time is running short. I have nothing to lose and feel I should ask.

Please advise.
 

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Dont you dare think twice about it, she wants to do something special that means you got the green light buddy.Of course you have nothing to lose now go get it done.
 

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jj1978 said:
Please advise.

Don't hang out with her on new years. Don't call her today either, or tomorrow. You have her number, call her up after new years to do the same thing you intend to do on new years..


If you go ahead and call her now to set things up for new years, two things will happen. She says no or totally ignores you, or she says yes, and the two of you hang out, and then go to each of your homes and sleep alone.. She thinks of you as her brother, and fvcking you will be incest.. Shake that out of her, don't let her lead.


Don't worry, she won't run away from you. She won't call you either, she has no intention for that.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I forgot to mention NYE is most likely the only chance she can hang out before she has to leave back to NY. I am thinking to contact her later tonight and find out about new years. I will say I need to make plans quick because I have other girls who want to hang out but I'm giving her first choice/priority.

Any thoughts or suggestions on how to proceed would be appreciated! :rockon:
 

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don't tell her that you're giving her first choice/priority! never

man... this sounds bad... you handled it bad... she compared you to a brother... this just doesn't sound promising... and with her leaving you're worrying even more about it...

i personally would invite her over for drinks... and if she said something like 'no, i'm not comfortable with that' THEN i'd bring up other girls like 'are you scared of what you might try to do to me? i have other girls i can invite over' and she'd probably scream 'well invite them over then!' and slam the phone down. and that would be that... because i see very little promise in this.
 

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